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Posted by chrisbet: Tue Jun 29th, 2021 11:02 1st Post
I quite like the look of this - not the pink one though ....

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Posted by Iain: Tue Jun 29th, 2021 21:41 2nd Post
So do I.



Posted by GeoffR: Wed Jun 30th, 2021 11:08 3rd Post
No thanks



Posted by Eric: Thu Jul 1st, 2021 10:33 4th Post
Although there is an attraction from the old styles, I have to say my bare metal cameras always collected more visible scratches. The black plastic coatings are more to my liking these days.



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Posted by novicius: Fri Jul 2nd, 2021 01:38 5th Post
I am not getting this....in this day and age of mobile phones used by everyone to take pics., one would think that Nikon would focus on Pro-camera`s, unless aps-c is considered the new pro-format ??



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Posted by jk: Fri Jul 2nd, 2021 21:47 6th Post
Looks interesting but for APS-C I have Fuji cameras.



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Posted by chrishamer: Tue Aug 10th, 2021 15:42 7th Post
Eric wrote:
Although there is an attraction from the old styles, I have to say my bare metal cameras always collected more visible scratches. The black plastic coatings are more to my liking these days. I've got one that I'm working on reviewing at the moment and hate to say the whole thing is plastic. Supposedly magnesium top and bottom plus some strengthening around the mount - though they could have fooled me.

Overall it's basically a Z50 with the Z6 II focus system in a less ergonomic body.



Posted by Richard_M: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 11:14 8th Post
I had one of these for over a week. I've only used it a couple of times, but so far its going okay.

Here are a few snaps taken with the fc and 105mm macro and 500mm pf lenses

#1 Spring is not too far away here downunder


#2 Phone pic of camera and a few Donkey Orchids


#3 Image of Donkey Orchid from camera


#4 Spotted Pardalote


#5 Grey Fantail



Posted by jk: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 16:48 9th Post
So will this replace the D500 or is it an as well as item.  
I like the styling apart from the Z mount.
I have to say I am nudging towards the idea that I wont be buying another Nikon.



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Posted by Richard_M: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 23:04 10th Post
At this stage, it is a well as.

IMO, Nikon like to make life difficult for their users.

One only needs to look at the user complex functionality of HDR and focus bracketing compared to Fuji and Olympus.

Another issue I've found with the Z bodies, and this could also be due to me not having a setting right in the menu, is when taking photos with the camera inverted (required for many native orchids and fungi including some of the ghost fungi), the image remains inverted in preview (not LV), and computer import.

With the Z50 and Zfc there is no remote available with 1/2 push for focusing, and is not an option which will be supported.



Posted by jk: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 23:15 11th Post
Richard_M wrote:
At this stage, it is a well as.

IMO, Nikon like to make life difficult for their users.

One only needs to look at the user complex functionality of HDR and focus bracketing compared to Fuji and Olympus.

Another issue I've found with the Z bodies, and this could also be due to me not having a setting right in the menu, is when taking photos with the camera inverted (required for many native orchids and fungi including some of the ghost fungi), the image remains inverted in preview (not LV), and computer import.

With the Z50 and Zfc there is no remote available with 1/2 push for focusing, and is not an option which will be supported.
That seems like a real miss to not have a remote that provide the focus 1/2 press.   What is the remote electronic connector look like.  There may be a 3rd party solution.



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Posted by jk: Fri Aug 13th, 2021 23:32 12th Post
Certainly the wireless/bluetooth remote (ML-L7) has no focus 1/2 press just a full press.  How stupid!



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Posted by Richard_M: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 06:18 13th Post
jk wrote:
That seems like a real miss to not have a remote that provide the focus 1/2 press.   What is the remote electronic connector look like.  There may be a 3rd party solution. That is the issue, there is no connector



Posted by Richard_M: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 06:25 14th Post
I took the Z fc out again this morning. I tried both normal and silent shutter. I didn't notice any anomalies in the images using silent shutter, so was happy about that. I took over 500 images on one battery, not sure how much was left in the battery. I was going to keep using it until it went flat, but didn't get that far today. I had a spare in my pocket.

Focusing was fine, particularly when the birds were in bush with dappled lighting.


A few snaps from this morning

#1 Red Wattlebird


#2 Golden Whistler


#3 Purple Swamphen


#4 Spotted Pardalote (Male) outside the nest he was making in the bank


#5 Spotted Pardalote (Female)


#6 Red-browed Finch



Posted by jk: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 08:14 15th Post
Richard_M wrote:
That is the issue, there is no connector eeeek.  Major miss out!



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Posted by chrisbet: Sat Aug 14th, 2021 09:07 16th Post
As the remote has function buttons, maybe one can be programmed to give remote focussing - like using the back button to focus?



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Posted by Richard_M: Sun Aug 15th, 2021 00:28 17th Post
Good idea @chrisbet. I'll see if I can get BBF working and try it out.

I decided to have a play with the ML-L7 remote this morning. Nikon love to make life difficult. It took me 1/2 and out to figure out how to get it connected. Once connected it worked quite well.

A couple of snaps from this morning

#1 Z fc with Lensbaby Velvet 85


#2 Z fc with 105mm macro. 15image focus stack



Posted by jk: Sun Aug 15th, 2021 12:41 18th Post
I find that getting some of the bluetooth and wifi connections working to initially connect is a real trial.  Once connected it usually works very well.
Did you manage to get a solution to the focus half pressure issue?



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Posted by Richard_M: Mon Aug 16th, 2021 01:46 19th Post
Did you manage to get a solution to the focus half pressure issue? I haven't tried as yet, still on my to do list.



Posted by chrishamer: Thu Aug 19th, 2021 08:14 20th Post
Richard_M wrote:
Did you manage to get a solution to the focus half pressure issue? I haven't tried as yet, still on my to do list. I assume the snap bridge app isn't fast enough for you? As you can use that to pre-focus by tapping etc. but I'm sure that you've already investigated that.



Posted by Richard_M: Fri Aug 20th, 2021 00:05 21st Post
chrishamer wrote:
I assume the snap bridge app isn't fast enough for you? As you can use that to pre-focus by tapping etc. but I'm sure that you've already investigated that.
Yes, I have, along with Cascable. Its really not an issue for me as the main purpose of buying this camera was for birding. For anyone considering this camera it is something to be aware of.

Another snap with the Z fc

Common Bronzewing

Last edited on Fri Aug 20th, 2021 00:06 by Richard_M


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