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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Apr 3rd, 2021 12:04 1st Post
First few pix in the garden with the new high-end Sony mirrorless A1. So far no complaints these all with 200-600 at 600mm Squirrel at ISO 2500 other two ISO 12500. The motor drive is very fast at max 30 fps and little or no noise. 50MP CMOS sensor image size 7680x5760 raw file 102,731 the autofocus is the best I have ever seen and picks up every time look forward to some action pixs. The eye-level viewfinder is very large and pin sharp.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Apr 3rd, 2021 12:07 2nd Post

Sorry JK two up please delete one!.

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Posted by chrisbet: Sat Apr 3rd, 2021 12:39 4th Post
Impressive - if you right click on the images and select "View image", then use control + to zoom in, the images are clear and crisp.



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Posted by jk: Sat Apr 3rd, 2021 13:15 5th Post
Yes a lot of detail there.
I wonder how much extra it is compared to the D850.  You need to do a side by side to accurately compare.  Pictures taken on different days are not directly comparable.
There is no doubt that the Sony AF options are IMHO more exhaustive than the Nikon ones and more useful to typical everyday use.

There is value to having more MP especially if you want to crop images and use them as large detailed prints.
Posters can be printed at 36/72dpi and look good as they are meant to be viewed at a distance but a gallery print is looked at as closer than the recommended 1.5x diagonal.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Apr 3rd, 2021 16:03 6th Post
Chris you are looking at the JPG as you know so the full 7680x5760 would show a lot more. I was glad that Photoshop CC had updated raw drivers a few day ago so I was able to avoid using JPG to start with as many of the early reviews were made from. I hope to get images of more interest ASAP at moment I have been making use of my garden. I think I have made the right choice but am sad to part with ALL my Nikon kit as I needed to in order to make the change, body alone for the A1 is £6349.99oi in UK.



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Posted by chrisbet: Sat Apr 3rd, 2021 18:46 7th Post
Huge investment! I hope our embracing of other makes means you will stay on here!



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Posted by jk: Sat Apr 3rd, 2021 22:30 8th Post
I think that you need to drop all the Nikon gear like you have done Graham. Otherwise you get caught in a situation of betwix and between like I am with the Nikons and Fuji.  I have Nikon FF and APS-C as well as Fuji MF and APS-C.

I have recently got the Fuji GFX50R as a test of whether I need the 51MP of MF.
I am finding there are subtle differences and the Fuji lenses just like the Hasselblad lenses deliver very sharp results which are very subtle.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Apr 3rd, 2021 22:36 9th Post
Chris I have made some very good friends here and see no need or wish to move. Several of us go back to the D1 first serious DSLR' more than 20 yrs ago and at that time learning an all-new way of taking photos and helping others find the good news.



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Posted by jk: Sat Apr 3rd, 2021 23:21 10th Post
Yes so many years of learning and experimenting when we were in the days before the D3.  The old D1 and D2 series cameras were a real trial and tested many of us. The D3 and subsequent FF sensored cameras really help the quality emerge from digital shooting.



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Posted by Iain: Sun Apr 4th, 2021 10:14 11th Post
Those images look good Graham. For me I am still having trouble accepting the electronic viewfinder.

 


Posted by novicius: Mon Apr 5th, 2021 00:07 12th Post
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Those images look good Graham. For me I am still having trouble accepting the electronic viewfinder. And that shows the " problem " in a nutshell, the EVF is Unusable with certain lenses like the PC (E) Nikkors when handheld ,which is what I use `em for...and some other lenses with man.focus , there are features to overcome that ,which will slow down operations and become cumbersome in use,  ....for me it`s the SLR all the way..:applause:



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Posted by novicius: Mon Apr 5th, 2021 00:18 13th Post
I would Love the GFX 100...I know a gent in Argentina who is using that camera with the PC-E Nikkors...19...24...45...albeit on full lens opening only ,as it can n`t control the electric aperture, yet,he still achieves good results tho`, .....and that`s another thing with mating modern gear of different makes , namely Incompatibility Issues !!...



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Posted by jk: Mon Apr 5th, 2021 07:47 14th Post
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I would Love the GFX 100...I know a gent in Argentina who is using that camera with the PC-E Nikkors...19...24...45...albeit on full lens opening only ,as it can n`t control the electric aperture, yet,he still achieves good results tho`, .....and that`s another thing with mating modern gear of different makes , namely Incompatibility Issues !!... Well I have the GFX50R and for the time being I can be satisfied by it.
I wish I could fond a way (hack) that allowed me to directly control the 24mm f3.5 PCe lens aperture as it covers the 44x33 sensor size easily with no vignette visible.  Also considering the Laowa 17mm f4 lens.



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Posted by Iain: Mon Apr 5th, 2021 20:21 15th Post
novicius wrote:
And that shows the " problem " in a nutshell, the EVF is Unusable with certain lenses like the PC (E) Nikkors when handheld ,which is what I use `em for...and some other lenses with man.focus , there are features to overcome that ,which will slow down operations and become cumbersome in use,  ....for me it`s the SLR all the way..:applause: It depends on what your shooting I found that when using the evf for BIF what I saw in the viewfinder and what I got were ever so slightly different.

 


Posted by Eric: Mon Apr 5th, 2021 20:51 16th Post
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It depends on what your shooting I found that when using the evf for BIF what I saw in the viewfinder and what I got were ever so slightly different. I found that true of the Fuji mirrorless cameras I had.
The Sony camera I now have (A7 iii) is much better. It’s focusing system is also a lot faster and more true.  

The A1 that Graham is using, has an EVF that is purportedly better than many top DSLR! Sony have also countered the black flashing between exposures even at 30fps.

The one thing I haven’t gotten used to with mirrorless, is the playback in the viewfinder (not sure if a I can cancel that?). If I pause to preview a captured image on the back screen then suddenly have to lift the camera to the eye to resume shooting, there is an eyeful of that file still in the evf which blanks the view of the next subject... for what seems to be an eternity. I’ve missed several unexpected bif while the evf playback image clears.
I have to try to remember to touch the shutter to clear it while I am lifting to the eye.

It may be there’s a setting I am missing or I need to get used to a new system...but it does jarr a bit.



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Posted by jk: Tue Apr 6th, 2021 00:06 17th Post
There is an 'EVF eye sensor' that switches between TFT screen and EVF so all you need to do is touch the shutter to revert from playback to shooting.
It is the same on Nikon D850 but of course with DSLR there is no playback in viewfinder.

Playback in viewfinder is not something I like except when it is under very sunny/bright conditions.



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Posted by Eric: Tue Apr 6th, 2021 10:04 18th Post
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There is an 'EVF eye sensor' that switches between TFT screen and EVF so all you need to do is touch the shutter to revert from playback to shooting.
It is the same on Nikon D850 but of course with DSLR there is no playback in viewfinder.

Playback in viewfinder is not something I like except when it is under very sunny/bright conditions.
That’s exactly the point I was making.
If I want to pick up the camera to take a photo after being in playback mode, I HAVE to press the shutter to clear the image in the viewfinder before I can ‘locate’ the new target. 

With a DSLR even with the rear screen alight in playback mode you can see immediately the live action through the viewfinder. Sure you need to touch the shutter to get operational just like the mirrorless but you have that extra time to locate and compose before touching the shutter.

I found this frustrating yesterday practising bif. Birds were flying erratically overhead....I take a shot, check the exposure on the LCD and go to take another shot, but the bird has moved and I need to find it again in the viewfinder... but there’s a frozen picture of the last bird blocking my view. 😡 

I haven’t found it (if it exists) but it would be so much better if the playback cancelled itself when the eye went up to the viewfinder.

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Posted by jk: Tue Apr 6th, 2021 11:53 19th Post
Do you have playback enabled automatically for when you take a shot?
I think that is a nightmare so I dont do this but I know people who have this routinely enabled.  It would drive me nuts. 

I think what you are saying is something that is part of the 'way the camera works' with mirrorless.  To get away from that you need a Fuji X100V which had an optical and a EVF so you can choose what you view with.   Playback only works on back TFT and EVF.  The optical is always active for viewing subject.   I prefer to shoot with EVF.  I guess after 10 years using mirrorless it is all habit for me.

It is like somebody with a film camera that is not fitted with a motordrive, wanting to have the film wind on automatically!  When you have the motordrive you learn that if you keep the button pressed then you use your 36exposures very quickly!
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Posted by chrisbet: Tue Apr 6th, 2021 11:54 20th Post
Eric wrote:
I haven’t found it (if it exists) but it would be so much better if the playback cancelled itself when the eye went up to the viewfinder. Is finder/monitor set to auto in Camera Settings 2 / Display Auto Review 1?



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Posted by Iain: Wed Apr 7th, 2021 19:56 21st Post
Didn’t realise you had got a Sony as well Eric.

 


Posted by Eric: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 14:54 22nd Post
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Is finder/monitor set to auto in Camera Settings 2 / Display Auto Review 1? That setting (which manually selects the LCD, or the Viewfinder or Both) is set to Auto.(Both) 

I have the Auto review switched OFF.... as I don’t need to preview each and every image. I prefer to put the camera in playback periodically to review several images at a time. And then the camera switch to Shooting mode with the eye move to the viewfinder.

Apparently what I am wanting isn’t possible or not programmed in by Sony. Mirrorless users actually see my perceived negative... as a benefit.
They use the viewfinder to review images, in preference to looking at the back screen ...especially in bright light. Having it switch to Shooting mode as soon as the eye is upto the viewfinder would screw this for them.

They may have a point.

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Posted by Eric: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 15:46 23rd Post
Iain wrote:
Didn’t realise you had got a Sony as well Eric. Yes I am trying the A7m3.
Having tried the Fuji mirrorless and the Nikon Z6, I thought I would give Sony a go. There is no doubt the Sony focusing speed is better..but some of their thinking on menus and key functions is a bit bizarre.

Just a gulls dropping in for bread, shot through the window, but happy with initial result....

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Posted by jk: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 17:15 24th Post
Those are exceedingly good  (just like Mr Kipling's cakes and mince pies)!
Seems like you have taken to the Sony like a duck to water!  
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Posted by Iain: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 20:32 25th Post
What lens are you using on it Eric?

 


Posted by Eric: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 21:43 26th Post
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What lens are you using on it Eric? Sony 200-600

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Posted by Eric: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 22:03 27th Post
Not suggesting for a moment these are anywhere near worthy aircraft photographs but there was a ‘dog fight’ between an F15 and a Typhoon over my house. I thought I would test the Sony 200-600 as all the birds had left the garden and the wax had left my ears 😳

There was a little bit of haze about and the sun periodically went behind high cloud messing with exposure. (Excuses, excuses!)

Flighttrader app told me they were at 18,000feet.








Heavy crop.......






The Typhon then shot off up to nearly 20,000feet...





I was happy the resolution in the lens was good. I just need to get exposure right....when my stiff neck loosens up and my hearing recovers. 😳.

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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Apr 8th, 2021 22:27 28th Post
Nice pics - no chance of any of that down here - we have had 8/8 cloud cover :thumbsdown:



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Posted by novicius: Fri Apr 9th, 2021 16:32 29th Post
Nice pics. :applause:  is n`t that sony camera/lens combo a rebranded Nikon...



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Apr 10th, 2021 14:44 30th Post
Jackdaw is regular to our bird table. With the new Sony A1 mirrorless 200-600 lens at 600mm 1/500 sec at f6.3 ISO 2000

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Apr 10th, 2021 14:49 31st Post
The problem with feeding birds is rats come up from the River Meon my trail camera is out at night and there are well over 6-8 every night. Ratman has been hired and will be here next week! Senior Management has said no air-rifle this time! Oh and pix same kit as above.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Apr 10th, 2021 14:53 32nd Post
You are doing well with your flight pixs Eric.



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Posted by Eric: Sat Apr 10th, 2021 17:08 33rd Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Jackdaw is regular to our bird table. With the new Sony A1 mirrorless 200-600 lens at 600mm 1/500 sec at f6.3 ISO 2000

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I love Jackdaws. We have a family that calls in occasionally.
Lovely bird, well caught. They really are in best plumage now.



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Posted by jk: Sat Apr 10th, 2021 20:25 34th Post
Got plenty of jackdaws here in Cornwall.



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Posted by Eric: Sun Apr 11th, 2021 14:00 35th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
The problem with feeding birds is rats come up from the River Meon my trail camera is out at night and there are well over 6-8 every night. Ratman has been hired and will be here next week! Senior Management has said no air-rifle this time! Oh and pix same kit as above.

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We should have a quiz to guess the bird in the feeder, just from its feet. :lol:



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Apr 11th, 2021 17:00 36th Post
Feet?

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Posted by chrisbet: Sun Apr 11th, 2021 20:12 37th Post
Starling ...



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Posted by Eric: Sun Apr 11th, 2021 21:03 38th Post
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Starling ... I think you are right.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Apr 11th, 2021 22:45 39th Post
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Posted by blackfox: Fri Apr 16th, 2021 10:28 40th Post
WOW been a few changes on here since my last visit , which will now increase in frequency .super move by one and all and nice to see the core members embracing it all ..
  and with me being a couple of years into the mirrorless scene can I offer all my old friends on here a bit of Stirling advise from the depths of experience .. I find that with most mirrorless systems (yes I have tried other brands ) digital noise can and will be a problem in shadow areas .. the best workaround myself and others have found is TOPAZ DE-NOISE A.I it really does do what it says on the tin

 


Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Apr 27th, 2021 10:03 41st Post
Only been able to do test shots on my local walks with the new Sony A1 this is with 24-105mm standard lens and the detail in this Eric need sunglass when I sent him a copy!! 1/400 sec f16 400ISO very clean crisp 50 MP raw files little on no post required.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Apr 27th, 2021 10:05 42nd Post
Same walk same lens even the Dandelions look good in all this sun last few days!

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Apr 27th, 2021 10:09 43rd Post
Same walk Titchfield Abbey. As you all may know my posting of this one of my local test subjects!

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Posted by jk: Tue Apr 27th, 2021 10:59 44th Post
Was looking at a Peter Coulson YouTube session where he was testing a Sony A1 camera.  The shutter sound was very nice.
Small thing really but it it all adds to the positive vibes.
AF is definitely very good with manual focus as well as the awesome AF.



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Posted by Iain: Tue Apr 27th, 2021 19:22 45th Post
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Same walk Titchfield Abbey. As you all may know my posting of this one of my local test subjects!

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That looks very sharp Graham

 


Posted by jk: Thu May 6th, 2021 09:02 46th Post
Where are all the A1 photos?
I think that Graham must be reading the Sony manual!



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu May 6th, 2021 12:33 47th Post
Sorry not done much at all been very busy with a large skip and getting rid of a great deal from our large loft. Rushed into the garden in guilt JK and shot this for you will try and do better next week back to a more normal life.

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Posted by jk: Thu May 6th, 2021 12:47 48th Post
One thing at a time Graham.
Get the chores out of the way and then you will feel more relaxed.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri May 7th, 2021 14:53 49th Post
Family of swans at Fort Brockhurst this morning: Sony A1 600-200mm lens at 600mm 1/1250 sec f8 ISO 1000

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Posted by Iain: Sat May 8th, 2021 16:36 50th Post
Nice and sharp Graham. The Sony seems to be working well for you and Eric.

 

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