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Posted by jk: Thu Apr 1st, 2021 07:53 1st Post
I noted the following article on DPReview.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/4389088123/class-action-complaint-filed-in-new-york-alleges-sony-isn-t-addressing-a7-iii-shutter-failures



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Posted by novicius: Fri Apr 2nd, 2021 11:33 2nd Post
That`s it !!.....SONY is Excluded from our Inventory...what other make is Next...:letsplay:



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Posted by chrisbet: Fri Apr 2nd, 2021 11:40 3rd Post
novicius wrote:
That`s it !!.....SONY is Excluded from our Inventory...what other make is Next...:letsplay: Everything made in China!



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Posted by jk: Fri Apr 2nd, 2021 14:58 4th Post
Well we have had Nikon problems in the past so it is not exclusive to Sony to have these issues.



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Posted by Eric: Fri Apr 2nd, 2021 17:08 5th Post
I have never exceeded 30,000 activations on a DSLR so wouldn’t anticipate doing it now.



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Posted by rmoser: Fri Apr 2nd, 2021 18:55 6th Post
I'm actually impressed with the Nikon shutter. At your average airshow, I probably do something like 3,000 shutter clicks a day per camera and to date (crossed fingers), I've only killed one D2x. Now using D4's so hopefully they'll be as reliable. I have a pair of D810's but they don't get that kind of torture.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Jun 2nd, 2021 13:18 7th Post
Some more with the 90mm Sony Macro and the A7iii

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Posted by Iain: Fri Jun 4th, 2021 08:24 10th Post
Eric wrote:
I have never exceeded 30,000 activations on a DSLR so wouldn’t anticipate doing it now. There not even run in at that Eric.



Posted by Eric: Mon Jun 7th, 2021 22:04 11th Post
Iain wrote:
There not even run in at that Eric. I am done in, though long before that :lol:

On a serious note….although Sony are much slicker, faster focusing and in many way better than Fuji and Nikon mirrorless cameras (don’t know about Canon) they are still not a match for the immediacy of a DSLR. 

The Sony is as good as the Nikon D850 in terms of speed and reliability of focus. The IQ is excellent although prone to being a bit too contrasty out of the camera for my liking. It’s too easy to over process files. 

There are two points (leaving aside menu relearning) that disappoint with me.

1) Sony mirrorless cameras/lenses are not lightweight (one of the key mirrorless benefits lauded by manufacturers) The Sony A7 iii with 24-105 lens is virtually identical to the Nikon D500 with equivalent zoom lens. So no point in switching to Sony to save weight.

2) Although functionality is slick and commendable ‘when awake’, there is still a noticeable wake up lag and switching on lag …while all the electronics sort themselves out… which although manageable, takes (unnecessary) changes in learned methods to prevent it being an issue.
I am use to switching the camera on, up to the eye, focus and fire in a smooth rapid sequence. Somehow it is more disjointed and as a result slower with mirrorless. They may have speeded up the cameras in use performance but there is still a noticeable delay when getting ready to shoot. 

I see no reason to switch to mirrorless for action photography if the camera and lenses you have are already working for you. Why change unless it’s a necessity?



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Posted by jk: Mon Jun 7th, 2021 23:08 12th Post
I think that this was true with the D3 and other cameras and is the same now.

In truth the Nikon and Fuji mirrorless are similar but the Fuji is APS-C and the Nikon is FF.
I dont see much difference between them.
I have a Fuji GFX50R and I find this better than the Nikon.
oops..... Did I say that.... Fraid so...



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Posted by Eric: Tue Jun 8th, 2021 13:31 13th Post
jk wrote:
I think that this was true with the D3 and other cameras and is the same now.

In truth the Nikon and Fuji mirrorless are similar but the Fuji is APS-C and the Nikon is FF.
I dont see much difference between them.
I have a Fuji GFX50R and I find this better than the Nikon.
oops..... Did I say that.... Fraid so...
I was happy with the Fuji until I started to use it for bird photography. It highlighted its weakness - reponsiveness.

Looking back I should have kept the Fuji for general photography, sold the 400mm lens and teleconverter and looked for a different camera and lens dedicated to bird photography. But my innate resistance to operating two different camera systems perhaps pervaded my thinking to much.:banghead:

The Fuji mirrorless lenses, are truly compact and lightweight compared to everyone else’s efforts.  Combined with their cameras (2/3 weight of competitors) they are everything you would expect from a mirrorless system.

No…I am not going back there.:no:



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Posted by Iain: Tue Jun 8th, 2021 23:33 14th Post
I have to say that of all the mirrorless cameras I have handled its the FUJI that I like even though it is APS-c the IQ seems to be good.


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