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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Jan 24th, 2021 11:58 1st Post
4.00 pm yesterday I was on my afternoon walk without a camera and last light on Titchfield Abbey looked good only had my quite new IPhone SE not taken a pix with it so far results rather impressive, setting odd?: 1/700sec f1.8 ISO20 lens perhaps 28mm.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Jan 24th, 2021 12:11 2nd Post
Dare I tell you the previous day I was there with my new Sony A7iii and the very good Sony 24-105mm standard lens. I have also just traded in my D500 DX lenses and yes 80-400mm old friend AF_S for the amazing new Sony 200-600mm Lens. Results so far are very good ISO even up to ISO 5000 still good.
No way do I plan to sell my D850 and FX lenses but early tests show the big Sony zoom is well up to the Nikon 500 PF AF-S more later conditions at present not too good for photography.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Jan 24th, 2021 12:16 4th Post
Sony A7 with 600-200mm Sony firts shot with it at 600mm hand held.

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Posted by chrisbet: Mon Jan 25th, 2021 19:36 5th Post
Nice image - shows the iq of images on the forum off very nicely! :-)



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Posted by Iain: Tue Jan 26th, 2021 23:20 6th Post
Plenty of detail in that Graham.

 


Posted by novicius: Wed Jan 27th, 2021 02:52 7th Post
Great Image Quality , specially of the phone .

Perhaps I am just being Stubborn, holding on to my SlrN and D1 / 3 camera`s ,altho` fer X-mas did I get a 70-200 f4.0 N VR lens,..that image-quality of that Sony is Exellent...I think that Nikon Needs to fight back and make camera´s that can share files to the media as snappy as the phone can,without it costing an arm and a legg ..some time back  I was in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia, taking a pic. of the Petrona towers with my D3s , which could Not get the color-balance right, yet a battered old iphone 4 had No problems with it...the Quality and Robustness off Nikon is Legendary , but is it enough ??...as it is , I think that Nikon needs to Improve on their Electronic department , and Soon !!



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Posted by jk: Mon Feb 1st, 2021 09:51 8th Post
Now you have the Sony A7riii with 200-600 you need to get this.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/2049627329/sony-reveals-alpha-1-50mp-full-frame-camera-capable-of-30fps-and-8k

8K video, 50MP, with combo-pixel shooting you get 200MP.
What more could anyone want.
The 8K video allows a 32MP image to be pulled from a video stream.
Price to you sir.... £6500
:lol:

I think I need go buy some lottery tickets!



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Posted by Eric: Mon Feb 1st, 2021 15:03 9th Post
jk wrote:
Now you have the Sony A7riii with 200-600 you need to get this.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/2049627329/sony-reveals-alpha-1-50mp-full-frame-camera-capable-of-30fps-and-8k

8K video, 50MP, with combo-pixel shooting you get 200MP.
What more could anyone want.
The 8K video allows a 32MP image to be pulled from a video stream.
Price to you sir.... £6500
:lol:

I think I need go buy some lottery tickets!
Have already preordered one Jonathan.



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Posted by jk: Mon Feb 1st, 2021 16:09 10th Post
Really......
Should be a fantastic camera.  
With current bank interest rates you might as well enjoy the money as put it in the bank!



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Posted by Eric: Mon Feb 1st, 2021 19:50 11th Post
jk wrote:
Really......
Should be a fantastic camera.  
With current bank interest rates you might as well enjoy the money as put it in the bank!
😈😈😈😈

I suspect if you look in your camera cupboard, you would be surprised how many Alpha 1s you could buy, with spare equipment.

Sadly if I sold all my Nikon gear it wouldn’t clear my credit card bill:needsahug:



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Feb 4th, 2021 18:50 12th Post
Walking again this evening more rain so only my I Phone with me as I walked up Fishers Hill from a flooded River Meon

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Posted by Iain: Fri Feb 5th, 2021 11:54 14th Post
It looks like most of the places up here as well Graham. In some places you need waders not wellies.

 


Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Feb 5th, 2021 18:24 15th Post
Last Light over our little Meon River

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Posted by Eric: Sat Feb 6th, 2021 12:32 16th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Last Light over our little Meon River

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It’s a lovely image from any equipment, Graham.

I guess the current range of mobile phones have cameras that excel by virtue of their sensor size and lens focal length. They enable incredible depth of field even for wide apertures....with the advantage of low iso as a result.

The settings for that shot make me wonder about the need to use large sensors and bigger lenses for this type of photography?

4mm lens, 1/1066s @ f1.8 ....and iso 20!!



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Posted by jk: Sat Feb 6th, 2021 13:32 17th Post
I guess it depends if you want a large print out of it.

I havent seen a camera phone that gives A4 print of acceptable quality much less A1, A0.
I dont have an iPhone12 but my iPhone 7+ doesnt produce A4 prints that I find acceptable.



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Posted by Eric: Sat Feb 6th, 2021 18:17 18th Post
jk wrote:
I guess it depends if you want a large print out of it.

I havent seen a camera phone that gives A4 print of acceptable quality much less A1, A0.
I dont have an iPhone12 but my iPhone 7+ doesnt produce A4 prints that I find acceptable.
I think Graham is going to attempt a 16x12 print. ;-)

The wife has an iPhone 11 Pro. (I still have just a phone 😂) She read that the 11 was a major leap forward on camera quality compared to previous models....so bought one and sold her Panasonic FZ2000. She had problems with her hands and was finding holding even the bridge camera too much. 

The iQ of the 11 is quite superb but I think the wide angle lens (it has 3) is a little distorted (barrelling). The other 2 lenses are fine.


I think we are getting to a point where we must question whether printing large prints is the natural end product of our hobby.

Graham still exhibits his work so is a more regular printer. I personally haven’t printed anything for 5 years....when my A3+ printer packed up.
I never replaced it, believing the local print shop could fill that gap. I’ve also used the online printers that Graham recommended for digital photographic printing....they were excellent, cheap, fast and frankly did a better job than me. 😆



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Posted by jk: Sat Feb 6th, 2021 22:26 19th Post
I am similar to you as I havent made a large print for a number of years.  However I have a need to make some large prints but I want some more Cornish photos.  The Covid situation has put my schedule back by 18 months.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Feb 8th, 2021 11:09 20th Post
Same place next day with the Sony A7iii and 105-24mm lens at 24mm

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Posted by jk: Mon Feb 8th, 2021 15:43 21st Post
The duck adds so much to the image.  Nice one Graham.



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Posted by jk: Tue Feb 9th, 2021 12:22 22nd Post
Graham, I dont know if this would interest you.  Seems like a nice adapter so you can use the Nikon lenses on the Sony.  Only chipped lenses I think if you want EXIF. And only manual focus.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electronic-Auto-Focus-Adapter-for-for-Nikon-F-Mount-Lens-to-Sony-E-Mount-Camera/393076238548?_



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Posted by jk: Sun Feb 14th, 2021 22:23 23rd Post
This is an even better adapter from MonsterAdapter.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/7771020004/monsteradapter-new-la-fe1-adds-af-support-to-nikon--lenses-on-select-sony-cameras

as it offers AF functionality of Nikon AFS, AFI and AFP lenses on Sony camera models:
a7 II (firmware version 2.0 or higher), a7 III
a7R II, a7R III, a7R IV
a7S III
a7C
a9, a9 II
a6100, a6300, a6400, a6500, a6600



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 09:57 24th Post
JK Thanks for the info but sadly after never been with out a Nikon since 1965 I have now sold all the lenses and date I say the wonderful D850 and have on order the all-new Sony A1. Handed in the Nikon kit to London Camera Exchange in Southampton and placed the order so I will be only Sony in future. I think this new Sony market will kill a lot of business for Canon and Nikon. This pix was first studio use on the A7iii with Sony 70-200mm F4 lens and Elinchrom Studio Flash.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 10:00 25th Post
More 1st shots with the new Sony 70-200mm F4 lens.

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Posted by Bob Bowen: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 10:46 27th Post
Stunning detail and quality new set up Graham.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 13:48 28th Post
Thanks Bob, just did a bit more work on glass pix all black b/g bit too over-powering?

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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Mar 4th, 2021 22:37 29th Post
I preferred the black - the blue has distracting vertical stripes.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Mar 6th, 2021 15:45 30th Post
In our garden 2.00pm today Male Sparrow-hawk down for just a sec after missing a small bird. Quick shot through glass 600mm lens and Sony A3iii

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Posted by jk: Sat Mar 6th, 2021 21:42 31st Post
Good shot of the sparrow hawk Graham.
Are you finding the AF significantly better than the D850.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Mar 6th, 2021 22:42 32nd Post
Yes a lot and that was taken in a hurry through the double-glazed window, focus picked up at once.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Mar 14th, 2021 16:05 33rd Post
Our new squirrel feeder working well keeping them off the bird feeders. Sony A7iii with the very sharp 200-600mm at 600mm 1/1000sec at f11 2000ISO

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Posted by Eric: Mon Mar 15th, 2021 15:13 36th Post
I cannot post anything on the bird thread ...so I will stick these one here.....


We’ve got one of those nut feeders that has spring loaded perches, so that heavy birds drop the perch closing the aperture to the nuts.

This guy/gal? has started flying AT the peanut feeder. 


The impact shakes out peanuts. They then fly down and pick up their trophies before the blackbirds (who have also adopted the technique but aren’t big enough to dislodge that easy) swoop in and steal the spillage. Must get a video before a I run out of nuts. 🤔



‘Caged bird’




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And it’s mate....



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Posted by jk: Mon Mar 15th, 2021 15:20 37th Post
Of course you are jay-sting!! :lol:


Nice one Eric.
Is this with the new Sony?



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Posted by Eric: Mon Mar 15th, 2021 15:42 38th Post
jk wrote:
Of course you are jay-sting!! :lol:


Nice one Eric.
Is this with the new Sony?
Haven’t got an A1.



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Posted by jk: Mon Mar 15th, 2021 16:41 39th Post
But from the Sony? And which one?



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Posted by Eric: Mon Mar 15th, 2021 19:37 40th Post
jk wrote:
But from the Sony? And which one? Sony A7 m3.



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Posted by jk: Mon Mar 15th, 2021 21:09 41st Post
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Sony A7 m3. A7riii in Sony speak!



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Posted by Eric: Mon Mar 15th, 2021 21:27 42nd Post
jk wrote:
A7riii in Sony speak! Not R, that has 42mp. The iii is only 24mp. The only reason for the R is the cropability but it’s noise handling isn’t as good as the iii.
The new A1 is believed to correct this high mp sensor noise, along with other mirrorless limitations like screen blackout.



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Posted by jk: Mon Mar 15th, 2021 21:42 43rd Post
Ah.  Forcing my choice on you.
The A1 will deliver the resolution to crop from.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Mar 16th, 2021 00:19 44th Post
Nice pixs Eric. Yes JK we both have high hopes on the new A1 but no news of when they will be here or how many people in the Q?



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Posted by Eric: Fri Mar 19th, 2021 23:31 45th Post
Still cannot get out to visit reserves so must content myself with messing about with the garden birds.


This is a straight shot (no noise reduction in camera or post process) at 5000iso with the Sony....



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Posted by Eric: Fri Mar 19th, 2021 23:33 46th Post
Not all birds were helpful, the Goldcrest was not for turning...  (4000iso)



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 12:00 47th Post
Looking good like the first one. No birds this week been too busy with works team extending our front drive, job finished now very pleased!

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 12:02 48th Post
Problem has been the dust as they cut stones.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Mar 20th, 2021 12:04 49th Post
End result is good. All Sony with 24-105 lens.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Mar 23rd, 2021 13:30 50th Post
In the garden out this week Magnolia Star. Sony A7iii with 24-105mm lens.

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