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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 08:45 1st Post
JK said last bird topic is getting too large so lets start a new one for 2020. Come on members lets see some more super bird photography.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 08:53 2nd Post
Eric has been working on my Little Owls from the old Bird topic so here is his skilled Photoshopping!
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Posted by Eric: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 12:13 3rd Post
Not sure it’s that good, there are several errors I couldn’t be bothered to correct. 😂 

But as I said in my email to you Graham...it poses an interesting conundrum when it comes to wildlife photography. Where do you draw the line with regard to a natural shot?

If a free flying bird lands on a water bath in your garden...is it ‘wrong’ to remove the concrete bath for a branch to make it more natural?

We put food out to attract birds, then try to photograph them on a posing stick next to the food. Isn’t that bending nature itself?


I personally feel that it’s the finished photograph that matters, not how it was achieved. 

Take for example Barrie....




Barrie was tethered to a block with Jessies in an open grass area with other hawks waiting for his turn at the free flying display. Crowds of people in the background, other birds, mowed grass etc. So I removed the Jessie’s, cropped the post and replaced the background with a barn. I liked the final image because I had introduced BACK a more natural setting. Is that ‘wrong’?


In this instance I was on the marsh in Norfolk trying to photograph spoonbills. You can see one in the background. Couldn’t hope to get closer and not having massive lenses back then it was a nothing image. But on visiting a bird reserve with walk through aviary I was fortunate enough to have a spoonbill fly across in front of me. So the caged background was edited out and the bird superimposed over my marsh image. Was that wrong?







Well it was actually wrong in one way....Mike (my birding expert) pointed out it was not a European spoonbill (think it’s Asian) and if that had been on the marsh the whole Twitching world would have been there too. 😂 


Should I have removed my patio from this natural visitor?






Not just birds. I have visited several breeding centres for big cats and wolves where chaperoned close access enabled the lens to go through the wire fences....being abruptly dragged back when the animals came too close. (I backed away myself from one approach and my rugsack came so close to the fenced area behind i was nearly grabbed by a snow leapoard poking its paw through to get me. 















Does Where and How matter more than the result??.

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Posted by jk: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 12:54 4th Post
Answering Eric's points I tend to think that it is a question of content.
Removing distractions is fine, adding new backgrounds/compositing is not.
However who am I to judge if it pleases the taker/poster.



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Posted by Eric: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 13:11 5th Post
jk wrote:
Answering Eric's points I tend to think that it is a question of content.
Removing distractions is fine, adding new backgrounds/compositing is not.
However who am I to judge if it pleases the taker/poster
I confess I have merely tarted up photos in recent times...but not from a feeling it was wrong to go further. I am simply being lazy. 😂 

I however don’t think it’s wrong to replace detail. Infra red photos are heavily edited to get the results. I’ve never had anyone say they are contrived and unreal.....because they ARE inherently unreal. We use HDR and selective masking for sharpness, noise reduction, adding dof lens blur and who knows what else. I don’t see that as interfering with the subject....merely enhancing it with respect to its surroundings. So why not change the perch or even the background?

Like I said, of late I have been trying to get it good enough in the camera to use ‘as is’.  But I have some cracking long tail tit shots...bathing and drinking in a concrete water bath which Graham tells me would be ‘marked down’ in a competition for not being natural enough. I could set up an infinity pool with moss covered stones for a more natural look. But that’s surely no different to redoing the setting in PS. o.O



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Posted by Eric: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 13:13 6th Post
Sorry for thread drift Graham...no more furry critters.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 17:12 7th Post
Now this IS a wild pair of African Spoonbills in the bush in Africa in eary morning sun. No messing in Photoshop apart from levels.
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 17:35 8th Post
Just to get things moving another wild bird for you, a Scarlet Ibis
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 17:49 9th Post
Then there were more!
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Posted by jk: Fri Jan 31st, 2020 18:26 10th Post
I like the 'more' picture better. :applause:



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Feb 1st, 2020 08:53 11th Post
I agree they are a bit in your face.



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Posted by Eric: Sat Feb 1st, 2020 09:18 12th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
I agree they are a bit in your face. I suppose people who are colour blind won’t even see them.:lol:



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Posted by Eric: Sat Feb 1st, 2020 11:38 13th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Now this IS a wild pair of African Spoonbills in the bush in Africa in eary morning sun. No messing in Photoshop apart from levels.
Are yes...maybe mine was an African one, not Asian?  Either way it was a lot less distance to see ...in Surrey. :lol:.



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Posted by Eric: Sat Feb 1st, 2020 11:39 14th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Then there were more!
That shows the benefit of having the zoom lens, Graham..



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Posted by jk: Sat Feb 1st, 2020 15:22 15th Post
I think the Nikon 200-500 AFS VR is probably one of my best purchases.  I resisted the 80-400 as the original lens was somewhat soft.  This new version however seems to be top notch.  

I think I need to go and sell my Nikon 400mm f2.8 AFS and D3S, I think I will trade it on for the next Fuji body I get which will be either Fuji X-H1 or XT4.  The XT4 is rumoured to have IBIS (In Body Image Stabilisation), and with my Z7, D850 and D500 my Nikon system is perfect.  I am very impressed by the Z7 with its IBIS, so much better and more useful than VR.



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Posted by Eric: Sat Feb 1st, 2020 15:55 16th Post
jk wrote:
I think the Nikon 200-500 AFS VR is probably one of my best purchases.  I resisted the 80-400 as the original lens was somewhat soft.  This new version however seems to be top notch.  

I think I need to go and sell my Nikon 400mm f2.8 AFS and D3S, I think I will trade it on for the next Fuji body I get which will be either Fuji X-H1 or XT4.  The XT4 is rumoured to have IBIS (In Body Image Stabilisation), and with my Z7, D850 and D500 my Nikon system is perfect.  I am very impressed by the Z7 with its IBIS, so much better and more useful than VR.
I have resisted any trade ins of late because WEX (who are my nearest dealer) don’t give you cash for the equipment...you have to take the full value as a PX. I discovered Harrison’s do! In fact they give the same valuation for a trade in or a cash purchase! The quotes are the same as WEX and much better than the nett amount you would get from eBay.  May be doing some thinning out soon myself. ;-)



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Posted by jk: Sat Feb 1st, 2020 16:00 17th Post
Thanks.
Harrison's are located where?  Sheffield?
https://www.harrisoncameras.co.uk/



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Posted by Eric: Sat Feb 1st, 2020 16:28 18th Post
jk wrote:
Thanks.
Harrison's are located where?  Sheffield?
https://www.harrisoncameras.co.uk/
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On line quote enquiry form....https://www.harrisoncameras.co.uk/sell-camera-equipment/

if acceptable they pick up the equipment for assessment. Then give you final price or return equipment to you.

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Posted by jk: Sat Feb 1st, 2020 18:13 19th Post
Enquiry sent.
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Posted by blackfox: Sun Feb 2nd, 2020 10:24 20th Post
that Harrisons link looks interesting ,a good heads up ... anyway back on thread we had gale force winds on the Irish Sea and the dee estuary yesterday , and as I was driving to my venue (which lasted 15 minutes after arrival due to the winds) I spotted this kestrel in its usual lamp post  lookout . pulled the car over and it took off hunting but was struggling against the wind this meant it was hovering at just above head height and allowed a very close approach pleased with the results . although this 15fps does tend to run away with you still got around 50 shots to edit if I can be bothered .





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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Feb 2nd, 2020 11:15 21st Post
Jeff those 3 shots are super. This is another pix of the African Sloonbill for Eric. His shot was a Eurasian Spoonbill that has black legs and grey bill with black tip to tail. The African one as you can see has red legs and face and is white all over. This shot was in the Nairobi Game Park.
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Feb 2nd, 2020 11:37 22nd Post
Jeff thoese Kestrel pixs were very good I just tickled this on in Photoshop and bit of USM brings the detail up. Keep up the good work your new camera is pulling in some super shots for you.
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Feb 2nd, 2020 16:08 23rd Post
More Yellow-billed Storks with "friendly" crock from my Kenya trip
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Posted by Iain: Mon Feb 3rd, 2020 13:37 24th Post
One from today.

I50_0557-Edit by Iain Clyne, on Flickr



Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Feb 3rd, 2020 22:22 25th Post
Good quality clean and good detail, is this the full frame?



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Posted by Iain: Tue Feb 4th, 2020 07:35 26th Post
D500 Graham.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Feb 5th, 2020 16:39 27th Post
Blashford Lakes today better weather but very little about but got some reasonable Chaffinch shots. D850 500mm AF-S f5.6 FL Lens plus x1.4 = 700mm 1/400 sec f14  ISO 1250
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Feb 5th, 2020 16:40 28th Post
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Feb 5th, 2020 16:42 29th Post
This one for Eric as he is a bit more space man!
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Feb 5th, 2020 16:44 30th Post
There were also about 12 Linnets but we could not get as close.
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Posted by Eric: Wed Feb 5th, 2020 18:21 31st Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
This one for Eric as he is a bit more space man!
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 14:45 32nd Post
Male Blackcap on feeder bottom of our garden come mid pm for last few day this is best I could do through glass, it was 40 feet away so even with 700mm big blow up D850 1600 ISO. Stays less than 60 sec.
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Posted by blackfox: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 18:53 33rd Post
some red kite shots from yesterday at nant-y-arian mid Wales 





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Posted by jk: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 20:05 34th Post
Is the kite attacking the grebe?



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Posted by Iain: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 20:27 35th Post
No it won’t be JK it isn’t strong enough. There will be something on the water it will be after. About the only thing they can kill is mice.



Posted by jk: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 20:37 36th Post
Thanks Iain.



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Posted by Eric: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 22:30 37th Post
jk wrote:
Is the kite attacking the grebe? Looks like a lady Goosander.



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Posted by Eric: Thu Feb 6th, 2020 22:50 38th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Male Blackcap on feeder bottom of our garden come mid pm for last few day this is best I could do through glass, it was 40 feet away so even with 700mm big blow up D850 1600 ISO. Stays less than 60 sec.
What’s that in the feeder, Graham?
Try pinning an apple on a branch with the skin cut away a bit. Blackcaps often hang about longer on apples.

Not a good shot through blinds, but this lady sat here for some time.

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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 7th, 2020 20:36 39th Post
Speaking with Mike about Jeff’s Red Kite photo, he said it was quite possible the Goosander caught a fish and being a sawbill, left a portion of the fish behind or was simply scared off by the cruising Kite....which swooped in and picked up the remnant.21:31:06o.O



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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 7th, 2020 20:45 40th Post
Spent some time at a woodland reserve this morning. Hoping for Redpolls but the cold weather or lack thereof has meant none have ventured this far south this winter. So I had to put up with the usual cast......










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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 7th, 2020 20:48 41st Post
The funniest one was this Great Tit. One peck at its seed/nut and it shot off the branch. Managed to capture the bemused moment ...


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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Feb 7th, 2020 21:36 42nd Post
I like these very good crisp images. Eric what is bird no 3? I will put an apple out. Jeff liked your red kite pixs too thanks!



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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 7th, 2020 23:24 43rd Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
I like these very good crisp images. Eric what is bird no 3? I will put an apple out. Jeff liked your red kite pixs too thanks! It’s a Reed Bunting. I dropped the file size at the upload interface on the first 3 images so they aren’t as sharp as the originals. The last one of the bemused tit, is actual file size....heavily cropped just to join the close cropping trend.

Very pleased with the D850 and 500mm. It’s become clear to me that if the light is excellent, and the ISO is obviously much lower, the D500 and D850 are very similar IQ. But as the light drops the need for higher ISO causes the D500 to lag behind in the noise stakes. So the noise level is not only more obvious but the ability to lift shadow detail or under exposed raw images, falls away. It’s my considered opinion that despite the D500’s much heralded superior performance for wildlife, it comes in a definite second to the D850 on results and processing capability, when the light drops...as it tends to do in UK winter woodlands!

Of course the alternative is to only use the D500 when the sun is on the subject matter...then it doesn’t matter.

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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 7th, 2020 23:30 44th Post
Three more to share...







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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Feb 8th, 2020 22:08 45th Post
More good pixs Eric. Agree with all you say about D850 and 500mm PF lens and your results say it all.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Feb 9th, 2020 16:13 46th Post
I'm after Kingfishers again this week before they go up river to breed. This was from this time last year on a very dull day Nikon D850 with 500mm f5.6 AV-S PF Lens & x1.4 = 700mm 1/320 sec f9 ISO 2500 I'm booked to go in the hide this Wed so hope weather improves by then. 
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Posted by Eric: Sun Feb 9th, 2020 16:37 47th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
I'm after Kingfishers again this week before they go up river to breed. This was from this time last year on a very dull day Nikon D850 with 500mm f5.6 AV-S PF Lens & x1.4 = 700mm 1/320 sec f9 ISO 2500 I'm booked to go in the hide this Wed so hope weather improves by then. 
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Feb 9th, 2020 16:42 48th Post
I've showing this as this is taken seconds before he caught the fish and exact same camera position and settings. I think this shows what Eric and I have been talking about the D850 with this lens is very good with retaining quality when you need to blow up a small bird like this simply because there is no easy way you will ever get much closer 90% of the time. 
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Posted by jk: Sun Feb 9th, 2020 19:10 49th Post
I agree with Eric.  That is another exceptional photo.

Hope the weather clears for you and you have good light and cooperative subjects.



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Posted by Eric: Mon Feb 10th, 2020 15:41 50th Post
In between repairing the neighbours carport, propping up my fence and fighting Ciara....I took some time to grab some more images. Poor lighting but in the middle of a storm beggars can’t be choosers....










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Posted by Eric: Mon Feb 10th, 2020 15:47 51st Post
I wondered where the fat balls I rolled out for the blackbirds and magpies, had gone...


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Posted by jk: Mon Feb 10th, 2020 15:50 52nd Post
Down in one!



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Posted by chrisbet: Mon Feb 10th, 2020 16:11 53rd Post
Knowing gulls as I do, it will probably come out in one too ...:lol:



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Posted by Iain: Tue Feb 11th, 2020 13:47 54th Post
By the look of my car I think a few of them gulls have deposited those fat balls on it.😂😂



Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Feb 11th, 2020 15:54 55th Post
More good ones Eric love the Gull and fatball. After the Kingfishers and Kestrel in the morning so hope this good weather holds. Hope to be posting some more pixs soon.



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Posted by Eric: Tue Feb 11th, 2020 17:11 56th Post
Iain wrote:
By the look of my car I think a few of them gulls have deposited those fat balls on it.😂😂 People pay a fortune for waxy protective coatings on their cars. I am providing a free product via an independent delivery service. :lol:



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Posted by Iain: Tue Feb 11th, 2020 21:03 57th Post
:lol::lol::lol:



Posted by Iain: Wed Feb 12th, 2020 07:44 58th Post
One from this week.

DI5_0170 by Iain Clyne, on Flickr



Posted by jk: Wed Feb 12th, 2020 11:26 59th Post
Good shot Iain.  Love the lichen on the tree.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Feb 12th, 2020 18:14 60th Post
Shoot went well with plenty of wild birds and good winter sunshine. The afternoon with Kingfishers not very good and I think with Kestrel about they kept clear also first thing ice on water! D500 with 500 f5.6  AF-S PF and x1.4. Plenty more to come after I have a sort through.
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Feb 12th, 2020 18:17 61st Post
Very pleased to see a Yellow Wagtail and plenty of more to come lots of reasonable images to sort through.
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Posted by Eric: Wed Feb 12th, 2020 19:29 62nd Post
Excellent images Graham.

I cannot offer anything of that quality but I did today manage to capture a very rare visitor from North America 


It’s a Trump Duck....


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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 11:12 63rd Post
I had been asked to get some Blackbird pix for a member of my family while I was on yeaterdays shoot. 
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 12:28 65th Post
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 12:30 66th Post
Bullfinch Male above and this is Female. Same shoot Nikon D850 and 500mm f5.6 AF-S PF Lens 1/640 sec F10  ISO 800
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 14:24 67th Post
Got a shock when this Buzzard landed just after the Kestrel had gone. Yes sorry Eric should have more bleed this is all the pix the 500mm was too much lens and it was only there for 5 sec so no chance to put the 80-400 on.
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Posted by Iain: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 16:58 68th Post
Nice images Graham.



Posted by Eric: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 21:35 69th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Got a shock when this Buzzard landed just after the Kestrel had gone. Yes sorry Eric should have more bleed this is all the pix the 500mm was too much lens and it was only there for 5 sec so no chance to put the 80-400 on.
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Feb 13th, 2020 22:49 70th Post
A Robin was there, but plenty of Finches and Logtailed Tits but they all stayed on the feeders not for photography! Eric thanks for you kind remarks it was worth the 8 hours in a cold hide weather was good with light and quality shows through. I may have miss-named the Yellow Wagtail, looking at my bird book just now I think with Grey Head and longer tail it was a male Grey Wagtail?
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Posted by blackfox: Tue Feb 18th, 2020 09:04 71st Post
few from me . been playing with topaz de-noise and sharpen  Ai for a week or two .. seems to work extremely well with the smaller olympus sensors 

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Posted by blackfox: Tue Feb 18th, 2020 09:06 72nd Post
some superb shots on here lately



Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Feb 19th, 2020 18:04 73rd Post
It was raining today so I asked the Owl to come into the studio. D850 with Elinchrom studio flash!
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 10:53 74th Post
Later we were joined in the studio by a friendly Barn Owl that was also fed up with the rain. Daughter Clare and randson Oli also enjoyed photographing  them, Clare used her D300 and Oli used my D500. We had hoped to be photographing the Owls in the woods but the weather was not on our side. 
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 15:54 75th Post
The Kestrel lost interest in us when she was given her evening meal!
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 21:22 76th Post
This has just been accepted for the 2020 RPS Nature Group Exhibition: "Little Owl With 2 Young"
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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Feb 20th, 2020 22:34 77th Post
Well done :-)



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Posted by Robert: Fri Feb 21st, 2020 08:30 78th Post
Very good Graham, congratulations!



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Feb 21st, 2020 08:37 79th Post
Close up of the Barn Owl. Would you ever get this close to a live Owl outside the studio?
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Feb 21st, 2020 13:23 80th Post
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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 21st, 2020 17:08 81st Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Lovely detail of the amazing world of ‘soundproofed’ feathers. Nature is outstandingly clever and beautiful. Well done.


Just one comment Graham, on the full owl photos.....do you not find the white balance temperature a bit warm? (Modelling light?)


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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 21st, 2020 17:22 82nd Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
The Kestrel lost interest in us when she was given her evening meal!
I see it was Ratatouille for evening meal. :lol:

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Feb 21st, 2020 22:27 83rd Post
Yes indoors Kestrel  all three done in Pete's studio and his electronic flash is slightly warmer than my older kit and my setting were for my Elinchrom and there was no time to reset my camera as the birds are bought in for a very limitedf time and we had to work fast. No problem have adjusted the NEFs now but I pulled these JPGs off quickly to share them with you all.



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Posted by Eric: Mon Feb 24th, 2020 13:39 84th Post
Against all my acquired knowledge and common sense, when birding friend Mike said there was a Gt Grey Shrike 15min drive away, I agreed to accompany him. He’s trying to get see over 250 local birds this year (having seen 230 last year) so it was a case of b@gger the 45mph gale and torrential rain. [Aside: Ive never understood the logic in classifying rain showers ....they are ALL ‘heavy’ showers...or it wouldn’t come down 😆 ]. Of course gales mean the rain in Norfolk hits you horizontally. 

Still it gave the camera a good wash!

It was so windy we actually watched the GGShrike hovering like a Kestrel....something we had never seen before...




The days photos were not very good given conditions, subject distance, bird size and skittiness. But they were a decent enough record shots for Mike.




The poor bird was as disheveled as we were .... and we only got out of the car for 10mins. 😂 


A Red Kite cruised past .....





Nothing to write home about, but at least it got us out and rearranged our hair..



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Posted by jk: Mon Feb 24th, 2020 18:32 85th Post
Sounds like just the weather for a beach holiday!

I think you did well to get the Great Grey Shrike.
The Red kite is good as well.

ISO 128000 for UK ;-)



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Posted by Eric: Mon Feb 24th, 2020 21:12 86th Post
jk wrote:
Sounds like just the weather for a beach holiday!

I think you did well to get the Great Grey Shrike.
The Red kite is good as well.

ISO 128000 for UK ;-)
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Feb 25th, 2020 22:34 87th Post
Some interesting windy shots there Eric. Another of Last weeks Kestrel shots just as she landed.
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Posted by Eric: Wed Feb 26th, 2020 18:55 88th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Some interesting windy shots there Eric. Another of Last weeks Kestrel shots just as she landed.
Well interesting is about the limit of their ‘worth’. I am afraid I haven’t been able to get anywhere with good weather and close enough proximity to do anything of real merit. :thumbsdown:



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Feb 27th, 2020 23:10 89th Post
My 15 year old grandson Oli was in the studio with me last week and used a DSLR for the first time (My D500 with 18-140mm AF-S Lens) I set the camera up for him and like me he was hand holding and got plenty of good pictures of the very active Tawny Owl. Quality as good as my D850 pix as posted above!
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Posted by Iain: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 12:31 90th Post
A couple of in flight shots from this week.

DI5_1522 by Iain Clyne, on Flickr

DI5_1440 by Iain Clyne, on Flickr



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Posted by Eric: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 18:29 92nd Post
Please send those blue skies down here Iain.:needsahug:

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Posted by Eric: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 20:09 93rd Post
Still waiting for blue skies but a couple more garden birds...and a duck!













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Posted by Iain: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 20:09 94th Post
I couldn’t get away with the electronic viewfinder and poor noise control compared to the D500 Eric.

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Posted by jk: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 20:26 95th Post
Eric what camera are you using these days?
I think you got rid of the Fuji but have you moved back to D850 or D500?



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Posted by Eric: Sun Mar 1st, 2020 20:58 96th Post
jk wrote:
Eric what camera are you using these days?
I think you got rid of the Fuji but have you moved back to D850 or D500?
Correct. I’ve got both.
I am trying to use the D850 exclusively for everything at the moment...to see if I can dispense with the D500.

I prefer the feel of the D850, it has better low light noise control, greater dynamic range and (pixel) detail. I haven’t found it especially slower to lock and hold focus, than the D500....I find ‘I’ am slower than both. 😂  

Cropping a D850 image is slightly better than a straight D500 image when lighting is less than ideal. In bright lighting they are virtually indistinguishable.

I got rid of all the Fuji gear except the IR body and a wide angle zoom that doesn’t hotspot.  In truth I have tired of IR, so it may go in my next clear out with my DX equipment. I am basically an FX guy. 😆 

I haven’t ruled out a Z camera. But I see no point in adding one while I have the D850. Besides, I am not using my cameras enough at the moment.
One unused camera on the shelf, is better than two unused ones on the shelf.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 17:33 97th Post
Super weather today for a change so to Chichester Harbour and walked in at low tide to a remote area. Birds at medium distance so there D850 images are about 25% of full frame 500 f5.6 AF-S FL 1/800 sec at F13 800 ISO. 
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Posted by jk: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 17:40 99th Post
Wow that curlew is very sharp and detailed.
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Mar 6th, 2020 17:50 100th Post
It was there for some time so was spoilt for choice!
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Mar 7th, 2020 10:28 101st Post
Slightly better comp of the Redshank pix.
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Mar 8th, 2020 12:11 102nd Post
I have posted this to show how big a blow up the above shot was and same for Curlew pixs. As I have said many times all you need for birds  is a Nikon D850 and the 500mm f5.6 A-FS PF Lens. As previous Chichester Harbour pixs this good winter late pm light sun with haze 1/800 sec F13 800 ISO one spot focus AF-C hand held with VR on.
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Posted by jk: Sun Mar 8th, 2020 13:38 103rd Post
Graham, looking at your exposure data, you are using 1/800 sec, F13, 800 ISO.

F13 is possibly suboptimal for diffraction effects.  Or do you think that effects are not really noticeable until f16.

https://www.slrlounge.com/diffraction-wedding-photography-something-to-worry-about/

I try to adjust my exposure so that I use f8 or max f11.  I know f13 is very close to f11. ;-)
Also as a rule of thumb I use max f8 on APS-C (DX) compared to f11 on FF (FX)


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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Mar 8th, 2020 14:34 104th Post
You made me go back and look at the info for the days shoot. Early in day I was getting F13 and was on 800 ISO but these shots as posted were as light was going and were at 1000 ISO still 1/800 sec (I nearly always shoot shutter priority and fixed ISO) sorry as posted shot: F11 or F10.   With this lens I am very happy if I can get to f16 as dof is a major problem with birds and very long lenses as I was shooting all day with 500mm plus x1.4 = 700mm.  I agree with shorted focal length lenses  F11 is best news but deffraction with small f nos does not seem to be the same problem is was with the older lenses in film days. Then when I did a lot of studio work with 4x5 and 8x10 view cameras I often shot at f32 and got very sharp pix but it was with long focal lenses and the hole is much larger for the same f no with a small camera! Deffraction is the bending of light round a small hole is about tec as I get!
I was talking to another serious bird photographer and was interested to hear he always shoots with aperture priority and auto ISO. (He is a Canon person!!!)

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Posted by Eric: Sun Mar 8th, 2020 18:11 105th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
You made me go back and look at the info for the days shoot. Early in day I was getting F13 and was on 800 ISO but these shots as posted were as light was going and were at 1000 ISO still 1/800 sec (I nearly always shoot shutter priority and fixed ISO) sorry as posted shot: F11 or F10.   With this lens I am very happy if I can get to f16 as dof is a major problem with birds and very long lenses as I was shooting all day with 500mm plus x1.4 = 700mm.  I agree with shorted focal length lenses  F11 is best news but deffraction with small f nos does not seem to be the same problem is was with the older lenses in film days. Then when I did a lot of studio work with 4x5 and 8x10 view cameras I often shot at f32 and got very sharp pix but it was with long focal lenses and the hole is much larger for the same f no with a small camera! Deffraction is the bending of light round a small hole is about tec as I get!
I was talking to another serious bird photographer and was interested to hear he always shoots with aperture priority and auto ISO. (He is a Canon person!!!)
I have tended to err on the side of caution at f11 even with the 500mm. As a result on small bird shots the dof hasn’t always been enough. I have also been concerned going smaller aperture would mean compromising on shutter speed or ISO....both of which bring their own potential negative effects.

I suppose at the end of the day (or even on a UK winter midday 😆) we have to decide which of the three ‘priorities’ is going to be sacrificed. (ie Shutter speed, aperture or ISO)

I often set the camera to Manual and the ISO to auto. I then have selection choice of both shutter speed and aperture... at the expense of the ISO, which is less of a concern with the D850.

Even so, something still has ‘to give’ if lighting is poor.......

1/400th (too slow for small bird) @ f11 (too wide for a small bird) and 4500 ISO (starting to show noise even with the D850).

Perhaps the answer is not to bother taking the photo, if this is all the light allows you. o.O

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Posted by jk: Sun Mar 8th, 2020 19:27 106th Post
Still plenty of detail there for a good A4 print, Eric.



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Posted by Iain: Sun Mar 8th, 2020 21:22 107th Post
Interesting reading this as I use f5.6 to f8 for my wildlife shots.



Posted by jk: Sun Mar 8th, 2020 22:00 108th Post
Being a geeky sort of nerd I have an app and it says in general terms that diffraction effects start for FF at f11 and for APS-C at f8.  
Of course unless you are nerdy enough to go and shoot with each lens on each format at every aperture in 1/3 stop increments then look in pixel peeping mode you probably wont notice it or even see it in real life use!



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Posted by Eric: Sun Mar 8th, 2020 22:30 109th Post
Iain wrote:
Interesting reading this as I use f5.6 to f8 for my wildlife shots. I suspect there are many situations when the critters are big enough or distant enough to give sufficient dof at wider apertures. It’s really only an issue using the 500+1.4xtc at close range.  
720mm focused at 5m and f11 means just 30mm dof. :needsahug:

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Posted by Robert: Sun Mar 8th, 2020 22:45 110th Post
Eric wrote:
Perhaps the answer is not to bother taking the photo, if this is all the light allows you. o.O Well, perhaps but this is a superb image, in my opinion at least, it's spectacular and finely detailed, while you are complaining about some aspects, my only complaint is the 'camera shake' effect on the large tree in the background.  That I find objectionable, never mind the bird, that's fine, look at the background.  I  assume it's a 'feature' of the PF lens causing this effect, I never seen this with conventional telephoto's, or never noticed it anyway...  I imagine a quick application of a blur brush would fix it.

I think you are all too critical of the minutiae in these images while missing the 'whole picture' occasionally.  My eye is drawn instantly to the apparent camera shake on the tree, which it obviously isn't!

As for enlarging it to A4, I just viewed it full width of my 27" iMac, the bird was 14" long from tail to tip of beak and it still looked superb.  I guess that's twice to three times life size?



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Posted by jk: Sun Mar 8th, 2020 23:19 111th Post
Think you are probably correct Robert.
Wood for the trees!

I hadnt noticed the shake on the trees.  Easy to get rid of especially with Eric's Photoshop skills.

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Posted by Eric: Mon Mar 9th, 2020 00:00 112th Post
Robert wrote:
Well, perhaps but this is a superb image, in my opinion at least, it's spectacular and finely detailed, while you are complaining about some aspects, my only complaint is the 'camera shake' effect on the large tree in the background.  That I find objectionable, never mind the bird, that's fine, look at the background.  I  assume it's a 'feature' of the PF lens causing this effect, I never seen this with conventional telephoto's, or never noticed it anyway...  I imagine a quick application of a blur brush would fix it.

I think you are all too critical of the minutiae in these images while missing the 'whole picture' occasionally.  My eye is drawn instantly to the apparent camera shake on the tree, which it obviously isn't!

As for enlarging it to A4, I just viewed it full width of my 27" iMac, the bird was 14" long from tail to tip of beak and it still looked superb.  I guess that's twice to three times life size?
Hmmm. That’s me told off. :lol:

I take your point....something else for me to bitch about....the branches. 😆 

It seems like a rim lighting effect. o.O  It’s there on the nef file so it’s obviously not software or processing related. Maybe it is an effect of the fractal lens resolving back lighting when out of focus?  It’s reminiscent of colour fringing without the colour.



Ive just spent a bit of time looking back at my garden birds files and came across some that were perfectly alright. No sign of this edge effect.

I then looked at the exif ....and they were taken on the Fuji I sold.  :banghead:

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Posted by Robert: Mon Mar 9th, 2020 08:23 113th Post
Eric wrote:
Hmmm. That’s me told off. :lol:

I take your point...

I then looked at the exif ....and they were taken on the Fuji I sold.  :banghead:

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Mar 9th, 2020 11:03 114th Post
Has this bit of noise reduction in Photoshop raw filter correction?
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Posted by jk: Mon Mar 9th, 2020 11:45 115th Post
Eric wrote:
Hmmm. That’s me told off. :lol:

I take your point....something else for me to bitch about....the branches. 😆 

It seems like a rim lighting effect. o.O  It’s there on the nef file so it’s obviously not software or processing related. Maybe it is an effect of the fractal lens resolving back lighting when out of focus?  It’s reminiscent of colour fringing without the colour.



Ive just spent a bit of time looking back at my garden birds files and came across some that were perfectly alright. No sign of this edge effect.

I then looked at the exif ....and they were taken on the Fuji I sold.  :banghead:

Don’t let JK see this post ....I will never hear the last of it. :no:
Haha I saw it!  :lol::needsahug:
I can sell you a nice XT2 if you like but I actually suggest that you get an XT4 when it arrives as that also has IBIS (no not the bird, but In Body Image Stabilisation) but it is more expensive than the XT3 but it also has a bigger battery.
Bad luck I am no1 on the list to get one from Wex/FixationUK when it arrives in April/May.

I have to say that IBIS like that found in the Nikon Z7/Z6 and Fuji XH1 is a wonderful find.  So much better than the VR offered by Nikon on F mount lenses.  I am wondering if the new S mount lenses are more about the IBIS in the camera than the ability to make better lenses if they have a wider lens/camera body throat.



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Posted by blackfox: Mon Mar 9th, 2020 19:24 116th Post
ah well I'm still plodding on with my olympus gear . as older age and my dodgy ticker are definetly limiting my carrying capabilities but still getting the shots heres a few from yesterday 



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Posted by Eric: Mon Mar 9th, 2020 20:07 117th Post
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Posted by Eric: Mon Mar 9th, 2020 23:59 118th Post
I haven’t been able to get out and about much lately (wife under the weather) so I’ve been playing with the D850 and garden birds.

Nothing to write home about, just a blackbird in poor lighting. So poor this was at ISO 25,600...and yes I did do some noise reduction on the background but the bird is untouched. I suppose the noise is hidden better on a black bird?



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Posted by jk: Tue Mar 10th, 2020 08:33 119th Post
I think we need to be aware and not overly critical of high ISO images.

Eric's blackbird is effectively taken at 5 stops above anything possible by film in times gone by!
Sometimes we forget where we have come from.
I remember push processing Ektachrome 400 to 1600 ISO (+two stops) and the results were muddy golfball grain and mushy images that were dull and almost colourless.



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Posted by Bob Bowen: Tue Mar 10th, 2020 10:37 120th Post
Yes JK. How far IQ has progressed in 25 years. 1995 I purchased my Nikon Coolscan for £2000. Before that the Kodak 35mm scanner was £22,000. Five year latter the Di. I too remember the golfball sized grains regularly pushing Fujichrome to 1600 for sport.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Mar 10th, 2020 11:57 121st Post
Eric that Blackbird is amazing I have never pushed ISO like that. Good to see your interesting images Jeff thanks for sharing them with us.



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Posted by Eric: Tue Mar 10th, 2020 14:30 122nd Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Eric that Blackbird is amazing I have never pushed ISO like that. Good to see your interesting images Jeff thanks for sharing them with us. If you zoom in on the branch around it’s claws you can see how noisy the whole image was before I de noised the background. I haven’t done any noise reduction on the bird or it’s perch. I did remove one or two hot pixels (chromatic dots) that were visible on the black bird but left the rest of the bird unmolested.

I get the impression that the appearance of intrusive noise seems to occur above ISO 3000 on the D850. But the incremental amount of noise doesn’t seem to be 8x the problem at 25000.

Think I’ve mentioned this before; the ISO level for obvious noise appearance hasn’t changed much from the old days...eg iso1600. It would have been nice to have noise free images up at iso5000, (comparable to the old iso 400) on newer cameras, but it seems as though all the noise control improvement has gone at the higher levels and the middle ground (eg iso2000-6000) less so.

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Posted by Eric: Tue Mar 10th, 2020 15:04 123rd Post
I’ve reworked the goldfinch image to (hopefully) make the background less objectionable to young Plowden. :devil:


Also, livened up the image contrast and sharpness. It’s still not as punchy as Mr Whistlers version of the image. Maybe that’s a limitation in the sharpening algorithm of Affinity Photo compared to Photoshop?


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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Mar 10th, 2020 16:28 124th Post
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Posted by Robert: Tue Mar 10th, 2020 19:56 125th Post
Eric wrote:
I’ve reworked the goldfinch image to (hopefully) make the background less objectionable to young Plowden. :devil:
:lol: I was feeling pretty weary 'til I read that, thank you kind sir!  I just spent the day on the lathe making a special tool to use in the reassembly of a Land Rover gearbox.

Much better, thanks.  There was nothing wrong with the bird, superb in my opinion.

For those who use current versions of Photoshop and Lightroom the detail enhancement tools are getting better and better, I seem to remember reading somewhere that they are using artificial intelligence to find and enhance fine detail.  I find it very effective, not that I am taking many photo's at the moment.



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Posted by Eric: Tue Mar 10th, 2020 21:34 126th Post
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:lol: I was feeling pretty weary 'til I read that, thank you kind sir!  I just spent the day on the lathe making a special tool to use in the reassembly of a Land Rover gearbox.

Much better, thanks.  There was nothing wrong with the bird, superb in my opinion.

For those who use current versions of Photoshop and Lightroom the detail enhancement tools are getting better and better, I seem to remember reading somewhere that they are using artificial intelligence to find and enhance fine detail.  I find it very effective, not that I am taking many photo's at the moment.
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Posted by Robert: Tue Mar 10th, 2020 22:38 127th Post
Eric wrote:
That makes me feel really redundant.:needsahug: Awwww, didn't mean to make you feel redundant, I think it's supposed to bring us up to your level?

Chips are becoming so small and powerful I expect much more processing will take place in the camera in the future.



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Posted by jk: Wed Mar 11th, 2020 08:58 128th Post
The Fujis now have that feature in camera using X RAW Studio.  When linked to a computer a RAW file can be converted in camera and sent to computer as a jpg in any of the simulations e.g. Velvia, Acros, Provia, Classic Chrome, etc.

https://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/software/x_raw_studio/mac/

"Overview

"FUJIFILM X RAW STUDIO" is new RAW conversion software completely different from conventional RAW conversion software.
Once connecting a digital camera to a computer, "FUJIFILM X RAW STUDIO" allows users to:
Convert RAW files in a short time just almost same duration as a camera takes a photo. And it does not depend on the performance of your computer as the FUJIFILM X RAW STUDIO system utilizes the image processor in the camera instead of the CPU in the computer.
Get an image with retained exceptional image quality (tonality, color reproduction, noise reduction, and so on of the camera)."



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Mar 11th, 2020 11:17 129th Post
Here is a dull light 2500 ISO  1/250 sec f8 VR  D850 with 500mm PF Lens plus x1.4 so lens wide open.
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Mar 11th, 2020 14:04 130th Post
Yes this IS a wild free Starling. D850 with 500 PF  1/400 sec f10 ISO 1600
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Posted by jk: Wed Mar 11th, 2020 15:04 131st Post
Certainly pulling them in Graham.
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Mar 12th, 2020 11:53 132nd Post
Prervious image had a drip!
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Posted by Iain: Sat Mar 14th, 2020 15:11 133rd Post
I like the one with the drip Graham. :thumbs:



Posted by chrisbet: Sat Mar 14th, 2020 16:12 134th Post
Yes - and the drip has an image of the drop above which has an image of branches?

And the eye has an image of Graham with the sun over his shoulder.

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Posted by Robert: Sat Mar 14th, 2020 19:31 135th Post
I am always looking for images within the image, often rewarded.

My most remarkable reflection was in the ball of a ball point pen at 5X!  It showed an image of the entire room, almost like a fisheye lens



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Posted by Eric: Sat Mar 14th, 2020 22:13 136th Post
Robert wrote:
I am always looking for images within the image, often rewarded.

My most remarkable reflection was in the ball of a ball point pen at 5X!  It showed an image of the entire room, almost like a fisheye lens
Here’s one I prepared some time ago....especially for you Robert....


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Posted by chrisbet: Sat Mar 14th, 2020 22:17 137th Post
I tried the ball bearing thing, but all I got was the very fine scratches on the surface of the ball - need to find an unused one!

Talking of images in images, I used to do artwork and printing for the local Lib Dems - one of the councillors was a bit of a donkey, so I used to hide the image of a donkey somewhere in the background of the photos of him doing his "good deeds" ....



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Posted by Robert: Sat Mar 14th, 2020 23:56 138th Post
chrisbet wrote:
I tried the ball bearing thing, but all I got was the very fine scratches on the surface of the ball - need to find an unused one!
Or a polished chrome or stainless one.  You can get them on eBay, quite big too, up to about a foot in diameter,  no chance of hiding from that, unless you hide in a bush with a very long lens...



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Posted by Robert: Sat Mar 14th, 2020 23:57 139th Post
Eric wrote:
Here’s one I prepared some time ago....especially for you Robert...

Thank you Eric, very clever!



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Mar 18th, 2020 14:38 140th Post
Posting this pix as test as I have not been able to upload today internet problems with people working at home?


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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Mar 18th, 2020 14:40 141st Post
This is an amazing link to some very high quality bird photography:
Amazing Bird Photography Osprey VS Pelican - Sony A9 - Sony A7RIV



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Posted by chrisbet: Wed Mar 18th, 2020 16:35 142nd Post
Hi Graham - you need to use the YouTube link button in the editor and enter the video page link - I have done it for you and edited your post above.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Mar 20th, 2020 23:28 143rd Post
We had a 2nd trip to Chichester Harbour this week but tide was better but light not so good and less birds! Sadly our Gosport Camera Club now shut for the rest of the season. We are like many of our age now cancelling our two holidays and plan to spend most of our time as instructed at home. The World is in lockdown!

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Posted by jk: Sat Mar 21st, 2020 06:48 144th Post
The lockdown is a good time to learn, practice, or refine skills.

I found this on a friend FB page.  It led me to research where it came from.


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Posted by chrisbet: Sat Mar 21st, 2020 09:14 145th Post
and, sadly, it never happened.



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Posted by jk: Sun Mar 22nd, 2020 00:15 146th Post
OK back on topic!
:offtopic:

I think that I need to put some more food out for the birds so I can join in this thread.



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Posted by blackfox: Tue Mar 24th, 2020 09:14 147th Post
female stonechat taken a week or so back BV

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Posted by jk: Tue Mar 24th, 2020 09:40 148th Post
Nice shot Jeff.  Hope you are staying isolated.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Mar 25th, 2020 16:31 149th Post
Another Kestral from previous shoot: Nikon D850 500 PF Lens 1/640 sec f11 at 800 ISO did not publish before as needed Photoshop, head and upper body in quite strong shadow now sorted!

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Mar 25th, 2020 19:03 150th Post
Sorry uploaded the wrong file with poor colour balance. 

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Posted by jk: Wed Mar 25th, 2020 21:01 151st Post
Cant see the difference between the two.o.O

What are the differences between the two images?



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 08:33 152nd Post
-15 Cyan but it seems to be lost in uploading to the forum?



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Posted by jk: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 08:43 153rd Post
That is probably too subtle a change to be seen on my ipad.  I will see if my colour calibrated monitor can spot the difference.

I find it remarkable that the displays that we use for editing can see these differences but when we upload the image to internet site that such subtleties are lost.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 08:57 154th Post
The Hhead and shoulders of the bird was in quite deep shade with rest of body OK in sun. Did local exposure correction in Photoshop but colour was bit cyan compared with rest of bird.



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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 14:00 155th Post
The second upload overwrote the first because the same filename was used - add a suffix e.g. kestrel_4460a.jpg instead of kestrel_4460.jpg if you want to keep the original.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 16:43 156th Post
Chris many thanks it's no big deal it is very small amount.



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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Mar 26th, 2020 17:53 157th Post
It's a very nice photo - I was just satisfying JK's insatiable appetite to know why does what :lol:



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 18:20 158th Post
Yellowhammer D850 40-80mm Lens3200 ISO

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Posted by jk: Fri Mar 27th, 2020 20:39 159th Post
Got my 400mm f2.8 AFS ED ii back from FixationUK.  They said it had a squeaky SWM but that happens when the lens is not used all the time!  Bad Nikon design or sourcing of bits.  However if you know about these motors it is not eminent failure but usually complaint of lack of use!
I am not giving them a superb lens of value £4k for £1200.



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Posted by Eric: Sat Mar 28th, 2020 09:34 160th Post
jk wrote:
Got my 400mm f2.8 AFS ED ii back from FixationUK.  They said it had a squeaky SWM but that happens when the lens is not used all the time!  Bad Nikon design or sourcing of bits.  However if you know about these motors it is not eminent failure but usually complaint of lack of use!
I am not giving them a superb lens of value £4k for £1200.
I had a squeaky Nikon lens and was told that there was an aluminium strip ‘in there’ that can oxidise and needed regular use to wear it off...if possible. It was suggested I put it in manual and focus it rapidly back and forth for a new days - ‘sometimes they free themselves up”.

So I did this and I have to say it did quieten it down a bit but there was always a faint squeak. I eventually sold the lens on eBay declaring the squeak and it made 3/4 the price ‘perfect’ examples were making.
  
I suspect the resale price of these heavier long primes will have been influenced by the new FP lenses in some quarters. It will be even worse if/when Nikon bring out 400mm and 600mm version.  With Sony bringing out lightweight telephoto lenses it may spread up that release...once the world heals.



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Posted by Iain: Sat Mar 28th, 2020 11:29 161st Post
The 400mm f2.8 is a bit of a beast as far as weight is concerned and there is a bit of a selective market for it.



Posted by chrisbet: Sat Mar 28th, 2020 12:44 162nd Post
Eric wrote:
 was told that there was an aluminium strip ‘in there’ that can oxidise and needed regular use to wear it off Aluminium forms a thin oxide layer immediately it is exposed to oxygen - so all regular aluminium surfaces are "oxidised".

I would have thought the issue is more likely to be galvanic corrosion due to the use of other metals in contact with the aluminium or just a poor choice of material in the first place.

If indeed, that is the source of the noise - lenses aren't THAT difficult to disassemble, I'd be tempted to take it apart and clean / lubricate.



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Posted by jk: Sat Mar 28th, 2020 13:29 163rd Post
chrisbet wrote:
Aluminium forms a thin oxide layer immediately it is exposed to oxygen - so all regular aluminium surfaces are "oxidised".

I would have thought the issue is more likely to be galvanic corrosion due to the use of other metals in contact with the aluminium or just a poor choice of material in the first place.

If indeed, that is the source of the noise - lenses aren't THAT difficult to disassemble, I'd be tempted to take it apart and clean / lubricate.
I agree it is a poor choice of material in this and other SWM lenses.  I would have thought that a different metal or a plastic covering would be useful alternative.



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Posted by blackfox: Wed Apr 1st, 2020 10:15 164th Post
super kestrel shot graham was this at a paid hide ?



Posted by blackfox: Wed Apr 1st, 2020 10:22 165th Post
female stonechat a few days before lockdown . olympus omd1-mkii plus PL100-400 .taken from mobile ford 

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mondeo hide.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Apr 1st, 2020 11:28 166th Post
I love it, thats a super image Jeff well done, keep well and keep shooting!



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Posted by Eric: Wed Apr 1st, 2020 16:44 167th Post
blackfox wrote:
female stonechat a few days before lockdown . olympus omd1-mkii plus PL100-400 .taken from mobile ford 

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Posted by blackfox: Thu Apr 2nd, 2020 15:34 168th Post
thanks Eric,graham appreciated



Posted by blackfox: Thu Apr 2nd, 2020 15:34 169th Post
heres her partner a few minutes later 

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Apr 9th, 2020 18:23 171st Post
Not doing so well with just my garden birds to photo this Blackbird on the bird bath was better than on the feeder. D850 500mm PF + x1.4=700mm VR 1/250sec f9 iso 1600

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Apr 9th, 2020 22:40 172nd Post
Similar set-up 850 but F8 is 700mm lens wide open and 1/250 sec hand held shows that VR does work well with this lens ISO1600 fading evening light.

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Posted by Iain: Sat Apr 11th, 2020 13:30 173rd Post
Getting a bit jealous of you guys with a garden as I’m stuck in the house with only a backyard that no birds come near because of all the cats.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Apr 11th, 2020 16:05 174th Post
It's not all good news Ian with all this good weather we have 3 days of catching up with the garden jobs. Today is a day of rest for the sake of the stiff bits in the back and legs! Evening light now so will get camera out to try for the evening feed time. Eric has been sending me some very interesting movie bits of gulls and hedgehog feeding.



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Posted by chrisbet: Sat Apr 11th, 2020 17:04 175th Post
We have a garden and lots of birds nesting here but also many trees so getting a clear pic of them is difficult.

There are a pair of Jays, a pair of Magpies, a pair of Blackbirds, a pair of Blue Tits, a pair of Wrens and the ubiquitous Robins as well as Doves & Pigeons. Just waiting for the Pipistrelles to come out of hibernation.



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Posted by Eric: Sat Apr 11th, 2020 22:26 176th Post
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Posted by Eric: Sat Apr 11th, 2020 22:37 177th Post
And another flypast...



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Posted by Iain: Sun Apr 12th, 2020 10:37 178th Post
Time of year that those big guys are looking for young in the nest for a snack.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Apr 12th, 2020 11:02 179th Post
Nice one Eric! Happy Easter all, lets hope Eric's gulls do not come here and eat the little Dunnock on our bird bath.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Apr 12th, 2020 22:42 180th Post
I think this shows yet again how good the D850 is with this Nikon 500mm PF lens plus x1.4 This is the whole frame as shot lens fully open F5.6 but with x1.4 is F8 1/500 sec hand held with VR ISO 1250 same shot as above was cropped from this.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Apr 19th, 2020 10:50 181st Post
Not able to go out to photograph birds away from home so sorry to let you down but I have painted an Owl for you this week (from one of my photographs)!

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Posted by Robert: Sun Apr 19th, 2020 11:42 182nd Post
I love it Graham!

Never mind the D850, a set of paintbrushes are a brilliant substitute.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri May 1st, 2020 15:28 183rd Post
Got out for sea front walk today in between some serious showers. Plenty of Gulls, D850 with 500mm PF lens 1/1600 sec f20 ISO 2500.

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Posted by Eric: Mon May 4th, 2020 17:24 184th Post
I am afraid lockdown has curtailed excursions for more exotic birds And garden birds are the order of the day.....




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Posted by Eric: Mon May 4th, 2020 17:33 185th Post
The ducks have arrived for their summer holiday (one pair or another have been coming here for over 10 years). They no a soft touch ...and get a scoop of corn. Thus replete they obligingly cr*p on the patio and return to the river for a bath. Nice!

We have an ailing hedgehog with a swelling on the side of its face. It comes out prematurely before dark (not sure if it’s eyesight or timing sensor is effected). To give it a fighting chance we distribute a handful of dried mealworms in its path. The ducks however have discovered THEY like mealworms ....but are too timid to face a grunting brush. But as soon as the hog emerges about 6pm the ducks see him trundling across the lawn they give chase... they KNOW their will be mealworms.....


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Posted by jk: Mon May 4th, 2020 19:57 186th Post
Eric wrote:
The ducks have arrived for their summer holiday (one pair or another have been coming here for over 10 years). They no a soft touch ...and get a scoop of corn. Thus replete they obligingly cr*p on the patio and return to the river for a bath. Nice!

We have an ailing hedgehog with a swelling on the side of its face. It comes out prematurely before dark (not sure if it’s eyesight or timing sensor is effected). To give it a fighting chance we distribute a handful of dried mealworms in its path. The ducks however have discovered THEY like mealworms ....but are too timid to face a grunting brush. But as soon as the hog emerges about 6pm the ducks see him trundling across the lawn they give chase... they KNOW their will be mealworms.....


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Posted by Robert: Mon May 4th, 2020 21:20 187th Post
Looks like a very poorly hedgehog, that is one bad swelling.



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Posted by Eric: Mon May 4th, 2020 22:53 188th Post
Robert wrote:
Looks like a very poorly hedgehog, that is one bad swelling. Yup.
But it’s eating well, it curls up when approached. No point in taking it to the RSPCA because their needles are too ready in cases like this. (Not a fan of that organisation)

I fully expect it not to come one day but in the meantime it still wants to eat...which is a sigh it hasn’t given up yet.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed May 6th, 2020 18:24 189th Post
Like Eric and many others we are spending lots of time in the garden. This Starling not at all bothered that I was sitting quite close with my cup of tea when it came down to drink.

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Posted by Iain: Fri May 8th, 2020 13:08 190th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Like Eric and many others we are spending lots of time in the garden. This Starling not at all bothered that I was sitting quite close with my cup of tea when it came down to drink.


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People dismiss them but they have such lovely markings.



Posted by Eric: Sun May 10th, 2020 18:32 191st Post
Overcast and very windy here today. Shots through dirty double glazing :thumbsdown:




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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun May 10th, 2020 18:46 192nd Post
Nice ones Eric. We are seeing some of this years starlings for first time today, also for first time a coal tit, I must try for a photo it was posing well today but camera not handy!



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Posted by Eric: Sun May 10th, 2020 20:28 193rd Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Nice ones Eric. We are seeing some of this years starlings for first time today, also for first time a coal tit, I must try for a photo it was posing well today but camera not handy! Tell me about it! I had a lovely Jackdaw land for a drink, full frame! If only I had the camera in my hand and not a coffee cup. 😆



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Posted by Iain: Mon May 11th, 2020 10:12 194th Post
There nice Eric.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon May 11th, 2020 10:34 195th Post
Starlings feeding young this morning not my best as through window glass. Opened door and they flew away and I got told off for letting in very cold air!!! Nikon D850 with my 500mm PF lens (no x1.4) 1/640 sec f14 ISO 1600

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon May 11th, 2020 16:11 200th Post
Last pix of the day plenty of action and a few good ones missed!

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Posted by Robert: Mon May 11th, 2020 16:57 201st Post
Thank you Graham, excellent pictures, particularly interesting to see the interaction between the birds.



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Posted by Eric: Mon May 11th, 2020 19:44 202nd Post
The Jackdaw returned today....hoping it will come back tomorrow, when the wind drops and I can open the window to get a clearer shot!!!!




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Posted by jk: Mon May 11th, 2020 20:56 203rd Post
Very common here in Cornwall Eric.  They seem to spend all day bobbing around my garden or on the roof but they are quite shy so if I go out they clear off.



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Posted by Eric: Mon May 11th, 2020 21:59 204th Post
jk wrote:
Very common here in Cornwall Eric.  They seem to spend all day bobbing around my garden or on the roof but they are quite shy so if I go out they clear off. Yes very skitty. But will persevere.



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Posted by jk: Tue May 12th, 2020 18:57 205th Post
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Yes very skitty. But will persevere. Yes they are.

Their plumage around the head is beautiful grey and black that is so subtly blended.



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Posted by Eric: Tue May 12th, 2020 19:17 206th Post
jk wrote:
Yes they are.

Their plumage around the head is beautiful grey and black that is so subtly blended.
Like mine. :lol::lol::lol:



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Posted by jk: Tue May 12th, 2020 19:48 207th Post
:lol:
You know that we are all jealous of your wonderful plumage!

Mind you if they don't allow barbers and hairdressers to unlock soon I will be going for the Albert Einstein trophy!



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Posted by Robert: Tue May 12th, 2020 21:37 208th Post
jk wrote:
:lol:

Mind you if they don't allow barbers and hairdressers to unlock soon I will be going for the Albert Einstein trophy!

I did some hacking at my mop yesterday, only the bits I can see in the mirror, I daren't tackle the back, so I now have a short front and sides!  Perhaps two mirrors? :lol:



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Posted by chrisbet: Tue May 12th, 2020 22:35 209th Post
It's a bit like reversing a trailer - takes practice because everything goes the opposite way - I don't suppose my trick of holding the wheel at the bottom works with scissors ... :lol:



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Posted by Iain: Wed May 13th, 2020 13:43 210th Post
my hair is fine :lol::lol:



Posted by Eric: Wed May 13th, 2020 19:41 211th Post
My wife cut mine....so I cut hers!

The bruises are fading and the swelling going down. 
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Posted by Eric: Wed May 13th, 2020 19:48 212th Post
Bath time...



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed May 13th, 2020 22:23 214th Post
Well caught Eric good shutter speed! Our starlings with plenty of young still flat out. Sadly one youngster hit a window and was dead Jackdaw down at once and had a go at the little body! Too little water in my shot!

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Posted by Iain: Thu May 14th, 2020 13:07 215th Post
These are good guys. :thumbs:



Posted by Eric: Thu May 14th, 2020 22:46 216th Post
One more and I am done...got to find another species to photograph.  A female bull finch flew across the garden this afternoon ...at 200mph. Never to be seen again. 



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Posted by Robert: Fri May 15th, 2020 10:16 217th Post
Nice portrait Eric.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat May 16th, 2020 18:38 218th Post
Yes Eric we need a change from the 30 noisey starlings every day. One of out 4 or 5 regular dunnocks is best I can do.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun May 17th, 2020 09:34 219th Post
Young Robin having a drink this morning, starlings still flat out and driving even the Jackdaws away!

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun May 17th, 2020 10:49 220th Post
I shoud have added I had a fault with the D850 shortly after this pix: the parent came down to feed the young robin I picked up the camera in hurry with 500mm to grab a shot and it would not fire! Birds flew pix missed. "for" displayed in top window, looked at back of camera "card not formatted". I must have touched menu button because last night changed battery and formatted both cards. So now camera locked at this could not take any more pixs even took out battery but "for" still dispalayed. Up to computer as I did not want to format cards or pixs would be lost. Down loaded pixs see above all pixs OK.  XQD card back in camera formatted both cards all work well again!



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Posted by jk: Sun May 17th, 2020 14:22 221st Post
Those are very fine images Graham.
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Posted by Eric: Mon May 18th, 2020 20:30 222nd Post
One of our ‘new’ visitors....



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Posted by Eric: Mon May 18th, 2020 20:33 223rd Post
And a ‘not so new’ visitor....




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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue May 19th, 2020 10:08 224th Post
What is the "New" visitor Eric?



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Posted by chrisbet: Tue May 19th, 2020 10:21 225th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
What is the "New" visitor Eric? Thrush?



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Posted by Eric: Tue May 19th, 2020 12:32 226th Post
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What is the "New" visitor Eric? New as in newly hatched ....blackbird



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue May 19th, 2020 16:54 227th Post
Thanks Eric thought it might be and have just seen one in our garden.



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Posted by chrisbet: Tue May 19th, 2020 19:32 228th Post
Doesn't look like the fledgling blackbirds we have in the garden, they don't have the mottling.

Thrush and blackbird are same family.

Counted in the garden today (but  no pics as I am busy fixing the garage roof ) wren, house sparrow, blackbird, jay, magpie, collared dove, blue tit and heard but not seen - gulls!



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Posted by Iain: Tue May 19th, 2020 19:49 229th Post
Definitely a juvenile blackbird and a nice one at that.



Posted by Eric: Wed May 20th, 2020 10:07 230th Post
chrisbet wrote:
Doesn't look like the fledgling blackbirds we have in the garden, they don't have the mottling.

Thrush and blackbird are same family.

Counted in the garden today (but  no pics as I am busy fixing the garage roof ) wren, house sparrow, blackbird, jay, magpie, collared dove, blue tit and heard but not seen - gulls!
The mottling is there in the early stages like the Robin by gradually goes once they are fully feathered.
We have a pair of Song thrush that nest at the very bottom of the garden. Very shy rarely come closer to the house. Would love to see some success for them this year as Song thrush are getting very scarce, but they teach the young to be elusive as well.



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Posted by chrisbet: Wed May 20th, 2020 10:16 231st Post
Thanks for the explanation. We used to have very tame song thrushes in the garden years ago, but they have gone now. Shame because their song is beautiful.



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Posted by Eric: Wed May 20th, 2020 21:42 232nd Post
The humble house sparrow is a beautifully marked bird.....just a bit fidgety when searching for greenfly....




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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu May 21st, 2020 10:26 233rd Post
Eric your young blackbird is much darker that the two presently in our garden.  I will try and get a picture of one but we are so busy working in garden at present there my be a problem if a camera is seen by senior managment!



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Posted by chrisbet: Thu May 21st, 2020 11:38 234th Post
Take senior management a cup of tea and declare a tea break :lol:



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Posted by Eric: Thu May 21st, 2020 17:00 235th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Eric your young blackbird is much darker that the two presently in our garden.  I will try and get a picture of one but we are so busy working in garden at present there my be a problem if a camera is seen by senior managment! It may be my processing but from memory that’s about right...similar to adult female except the speckle breast.

Speaking of which ....just discovered that young goldfinches have a speckled breast too...



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I love the bemused look on its face....”you mean, stick my head in that hole?”.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri May 22nd, 2020 11:02 236th Post
You are right Eric our Young Blackbird much same as yours. Poor light this morning hope it brings rain our waterbuts all run out! D850 Lens 500mm PF no x1.4  1/500 sec f6.3 ISO 1250

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri May 22nd, 2020 11:04 237th Post
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Older brother or sister......





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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat May 23rd, 2020 22:44 239th Post
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Posted by Eric: Sun May 24th, 2020 12:33 240th Post
Well that’s it folks. I am giving up photographing baby’s starlings. 

I foolishly sprinkled some mealworms on the lawn closer to the house and did some videoing of them feeding, drinking /bathing in the water bath. Lovely close footage using the 500mm lens on the D850. The squawking and feeding frenzy was very loud. 

So much so, it attracted one of the several killer cats in the area which shot out of the border and grabbed one of the young birds I had been filming.  

I chased after the b*stard and it dropped the bird to escape over the fence ...but the damage had been done. One of ‘my cast members’ died in my hands.

To make matters worse, in the process of acting like a 20 year old,  I fell over and b*ggered my arthritic toe ...that had only just recovered from several weeks of a gout attack.   :needsahug:

Who would have thought bird photography could be so dangerous?



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Posted by Iain: Sun May 24th, 2020 13:52 241st Post
This is the best I can offer as I only have a yard and don't get much in.

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Posted by chrisbet: Sun May 24th, 2020 13:53 242nd Post
Clearly much more risky than you thought!



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Posted by Iain: Sun May 24th, 2020 13:54 243rd Post
Eric wrote:
Well that’s it folks. I am giving up photographing baby’s starlings. 

I foolishly sprinkled some mealworms on the lawn closer to the house and did some videoing of them feeding, drinking /bathing in the water bath. Lovely close footage using the 500mm lens on the D850. The squawking and feeding frenzy was very loud. 

So much so, it attracted one of the several killer cats in the area which shot out of the border and grabbed one of the young birds I had been filming.  

I chased after the b*stard and it dropped the bird to escape over the fence ...but the damage had been done. One of ‘my cast members’ died in my hands.

To make matters worse, in the process of acting like a 20 year old,  I fell over and b*ggered my arthritic toe ...that had only just recovered from several weeks of a gout attack.   :needsahug:

Who would have thought bird photography could be so dangerous?
Thats the trouble when you still think your 25. I don't have the cat issue with three dogs. :lol:



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Lol - my 3 dogs try to take out the pigeons when they land in the garden!



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Posted by Eric: Sun May 24th, 2020 17:37 245th Post
Iain wrote:
This is the best I can offer as I only have a yard and don't get much in. When are likely to be able to get out to your reserve, Iain?  
I know the public hides are shut at RSPB et al sites but I thought you had a private place to visit like Jeff?

Incidentally has anyone heard from Jeff? He’s not been posting and do hope he has stayed safe away from the virus with his heart condition. 🤞



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Posted by Iain: Sun May 24th, 2020 18:03 246th Post
I can get out to the reserves now but not into the hides. The problem now is with the trees etc in full leaf you don’t see much. The feeding stations/hides is where you would see things at this time of year so in a catch 22.



Posted by chrisbet: Sun May 24th, 2020 21:10 247th Post
Rather a grey day here but looking out the window I noticed an odd bird on the birdbath - it seemed to have a white rump and dark wings - went to grab the camera but it had flown. So I waited a while to see if it reappeared which it didn't!
However I did have the blackbirds screaming back & forth - not settling for a drink - then I spotted one of our noisy neighbours up in the top of the trees -



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Posted by Eric: Mon May 25th, 2020 08:07 248th Post
Iain wrote:
I can get out to the reserves now but not into the hides. The problem now is with the trees etc in full leaf you don’t see much. The feeding stations/hides is where you would see things at this time of year so in a catch 22. My birding friend Mike was telling me that the Cley reserve has been completely closed off to the public, not just the hides. In the few weeks we were all in total lockdown, many birds have started nesting within feet of the paths....including a Bittern! They don’t want to risk scaring them off before the young fledge. I suspect the wardens and friends are getting some good photographs. ☹️



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Posted by Eric: Mon May 25th, 2020 08:23 249th Post
chrisbet wrote:
Rather a grey day here but looking out the window I noticed an odd bird on the birdbath - it seemed to have a white rump and dark wings - went to grab the camera but it had flown. So I waited a while to see if it reappeared which it didn't!
However I did have the blackbirds screaming back & forth - not settling for a drink - then I spotted one of our noisy neighbours up in the top of the trees -



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and a moment later, which explains the blackbird's antics -



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Nicely caught. Magpies can be very skitty and ‘shy’. I find them difficult to get optimum exposure due to the intense white and black. 
There’s also something prehistoric about how a magpie moves about. I reckon they are closely related to velociraptors 😆 

We have a family that visit us. With all the small bird nesting that must be in the guarding we put food out for these predators to try to defray loss of there offspring. Magpies love corn, Jays love half peanuts, jackdaws love mealworms and squirrels eat anything but prefer nuts and sunflower hearts. Interestingly the Tits don’t like half peanuts especially without the husk. I suppose they like a round object they recognise as the real McCoy? If we put half peanuts in a feeder they regularly through away several whities before getting one they like....the ground crew (pigeons and doves) are always appreciative. It’s quite a complicated (not to mention expensive) life managing wildlife mealtimes in this place. 😞



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Posted by chrisbet: Mon May 25th, 2020 09:54 250th Post
I never feed the birds - we have a very woodland like garden with a variety of trees and surrounding wild hedges that attract and feed the birds, from the hawthorn that the doves & pigeons love to eat the buds in May through to the apples & plums in autumn. The garden is full of insects that attract the bats as well. We have several species that nest every year, blue tits in the boxes, blackbirds, wrens & robins in the hedges and doves, magpies and pigeons in the trees.

The problem is that they have such good cover that getting a clear shot of them is usually only possible if they are at the bird baths or the pond.



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Posted by Eric: Mon May 25th, 2020 14:11 251st Post
chrisbet wrote:
I never feed the birds - we have a very woodland like garden with a variety of trees and surrounding wild hedges that attract and feed the birds, from the hawthorn that the doves & pigeons love to eat the buds in May through to the apples & plums in autumn. The garden is full of insects that attract the bats as well. We have several species that nest every year, blue tits in the boxes, blackbirds, wrens & robins in the hedges and doves, magpies and pigeons in the trees.

The problem is that they have such good cover that getting a clear shot of them is usually only possible if they are at the bird baths or the pond.
Sounds perfect.  I am inclined not to do so as well, but I am afraid if I didn’t feed them the wife wouldn’t feed me. :lol: 
I am happy to prepare my own meals ...but she won’t let me in HER kitchen. o.O



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Posted by Iain: Mon May 25th, 2020 17:45 252nd Post
Eric wrote:
My birding friend Mike was telling me that the Cley reserve has been completely closed off to the public, not just the hides. In the few weeks we were all in total lockdown, many birds have started nesting within feet of the paths....including a Bittern! They don’t want to risk scaring them off before the young fledge. I suspect the wardens and friends are getting some good photographs. ☹️ I hope things open up as we are due to come down to Norfolk in July if we can. Just watching what is being said.



Posted by Iain: Tue May 26th, 2020 13:26 253rd Post
A few form one of the reserves today.

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this not a bird but thought I would include it.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue May 26th, 2020 17:42 254th Post
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Posted by Eric: Tue May 26th, 2020 19:43 255th Post
Birdwatching is a fascinating hobby....




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Posted by Eric: Wed May 27th, 2020 20:58 256th Post
For some reason, this Song Thrush which has been shyly keeping to the bottom hedge in the garden, today decided to forage in the open. It came very close considering we were sat outside and not trying to hide out of sight.

I suspect it’s because it’s feeding young, as I then threw out some bread and it grabbed several mouthfuls before flying back to the bottom hedge.

Will have to keep an eye out for it’s fledglings. 🤞 



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Posted by jk: Wed May 27th, 2020 22:02 257th Post
Second image shows the beautiful markings really well.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed May 27th, 2020 22:03 258th Post
Super inages, long time since I have seen one. Hope to get some new pixs out in local wood on Friday.



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Posted by chrisbet: Wed May 27th, 2020 22:31 259th Post
"My" Magpie has been foraging bits of bread from somewhere - it brings them to our bird bath and dunks them!



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Posted by Eric: Thu May 28th, 2020 07:56 260th Post
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu May 28th, 2020 09:34 261st Post
Good capture but you were a bit dark? Very slight shadow detail in Photoshop bring out detail, I wish we had Thrushes in our garden. In wild bird local wood tomorrow hope to get some changes of subject matter. 

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Posted by Iain: Fri May 29th, 2020 08:40 262nd Post
Nice shot Eric.



Posted by Eric: Fri May 29th, 2020 11:23 263rd Post
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Nice shot Eric. Thanks  Iain.
Are you still using Affinity Photo for processing your images?

Ive been a little disappointed with these recent images in terms of sharpness. And wondered if it’s raw converter is the root cause.  
I’ve sent a batch to Mr Whistler to see if he can get more out of the NEFs using Nikon Capture. If he can, it may be time to stop the iPad - Affinity experiment and go back to the desktop. If he can’t, then either I am doing something wrong, or the equipment has an issue. 8-)



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri May 29th, 2020 17:59 264th Post
Barn Owl this evening in the woods Nikon D500 with 80-400mm Lens 1/400sec f13 ISO 2000

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri May 29th, 2020 18:02 265th Post
This morning in the woods a wild Kestrel  Nikon D850 500mm PF Lens + x1.4 = 700mm 1/400 sec f13 ISO 1600

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Posted by Iain: Sat May 30th, 2020 09:17 266th Post
Eric wrote:
Thanks  Iain.
Are you still using Affinity Photo for processing your images?

Ive been a little disappointed with these recent images in terms of sharpness. And wondered if it’s raw converter is the root cause.  
I’ve sent a batch to Mr Whistler to see if he can get more out of the NEFs using Nikon Capture. If he can, it may be time to stop the iPad - Affinity experiment and go back to the desktop. If he can’t, then either I am doing something wrong, or the equipment has an issue. 8-)
No, I use a mix of Lightroom and Nikon’s software. The Nikon software gets the best out of the files but is a bit slow even on my Mac Pro with 32g of ram and 8 core cpu



Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat May 30th, 2020 11:24 267th Post
This is damage control only saved by the amazing dynamic range of the Nikon D850 camera. The kestral above was spot on exposure and needed little Photoshop but it the flew to another post with very deep shadow in the woods. I had to move quickly as it only stayed for a few seconds so had no time to add -2 stops to camera settings before it flew away for a 2nd shot. (IE Classic subject failure) Below is as shot with no Photoshop or RAW adjustments. It was also 2 hours before the above shot and light was not as good sun was still low and not at best angle. I also noticed how clear the light was with much reduced pollution since I was last out in the woods two months ago!!!!!

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Later in the day just caught it as it landed for another mouse. Better light but not quite enough DOF with 700mm   1/500 sec f13 ISO 1600



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Posted by jk: Sat May 30th, 2020 18:53 270th Post
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Later in the day just caught it as it landed for another mouse. Better light but not quite enough DOF with 700mm   1/500 sec f13 ISO 1600
Great capture Graham.
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun May 31st, 2020 10:48 271st Post
Sorry Eric todays pix is a family of young Starlings with parent bird! D500 with Nikon 80-400mm lens

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Posted by Iain: Mon Jun 1st, 2020 08:09 273rd Post
:lol::lol: Love the story line Eric and the pic's.



Posted by Eric: Mon Jun 1st, 2020 09:15 274th Post
I was trying to photograph Swifts at a 1000 feet. 


Still having a bit of sharpness issues in my photos....but it was travelling 37,000 feet and 450knots





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Posted by chrisbet: Mon Jun 1st, 2020 10:58 275th Post
Hmm, I wonder if there is some haze / air shimmering involved?



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Posted by Iain: Mon Jun 1st, 2020 13:13 276th Post
Eric wrote:
I was trying to photograph Swifts at a 1000 feet. 


Still having a bit of sharpness issues in my photos....but it was travelling 37,000 feet and 450knots





Needless to say it’s a heavily cropped image. 😆
Should have been pin sharp then. :lol:.



Posted by Eric: Mon Jun 1st, 2020 14:25 277th Post
chrisbet wrote:
Hmm, I wonder if there is some haze / air shimmering involved? And Eric wobble.... as it went virtually overhead



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Posted by Iain: Mon Jun 1st, 2020 20:14 278th Post
Eric wrote:
And Eric wobble.... as it went virtually overhead I had that problem taking photo of a red kite the other day as it went over the top of me I went back over, luckily there was a fence behind me so no harm done.



Posted by Eric: Mon Jun 1st, 2020 20:58 279th Post
Iain wrote:
I had that problem taking photo of a red kite the other day as it went over the top of me I went back over, luckily there was a fence behind me so no harm done. We are hoping to visit a CL with the caravan in early Sept (after the traditional school holiday period) which had Red Kites overflying regularly. The owner told me last year that a few chunks of cheap corned beef chucked over the fence into (his) adjacent field gets them sitting on the fence posts. 8-).  So we will be taking stocks of corned beef this time. 😆



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Posted by Bob Bowen: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 10:24 280th Post

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I need a bigger bath than this one please.



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Posted by GeoffR: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 11:13 281st Post
Eric wrote:
I was trying to photograph Swifts at a 1000 feet. 


Still having a bit of sharpness issues in my photos....but it was travelling 37,000 feet and 450knots





Needless to say it’s a heavily cropped image. 😆
Do you have a license to photograph endangered species?.



Posted by Eric: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 13:48 282nd Post
GeoffR wrote:
Do you have a license to photograph endangered species? Plenty of them still whizzing over us.




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Posted by jk: Tue Jun 2nd, 2020 13:53 283rd Post
Eric, looking at the image it looks like the camera has focussed on the moon not the aircraft. 
I dont know what you had your AF focus point on but I guess it was not the moon, but I might be completely off on this.



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Posted by GeoffR: Wed Jun 3rd, 2020 08:17 284th Post
Eric wrote:
Plenty of them still whizzing over us.
The endangered species is the 747 being relegated to carrying cargo and probably gone from passenger service by 2025.



Posted by Eric: Wed Jun 3rd, 2020 21:10 285th Post
jk wrote:
Eric, looking at the image it looks like the camera has focussed on the moon not the aircraft. 
I dont know what you had your AF focus point on but I guess it was not the moon, but I might be completely off on this.
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 07:51 286th Post
I think you are slightly missing the point as beyond infinity everything is in sharp focus so both should be in focus and it must be movement of the plane and not even Eric shake!



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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 08:25 287th Post
Surely even "Trekkers" can't go beyond infinity   :lol:

Eric shake would have blurred the moon?

Plane movement would have blurred the leading and trailing edges only.

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Posted by GeoffR: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 09:27 288th Post
I'm not sure there is a lack of sharpness, I think the lack of contrast between the aircraft and the sky is being interpreted as a lack of sharpness. Looking at the contrails they are sharp and they must be on, or very near, the same plane as the aircraft.



Posted by Eric: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 10:54 289th Post
I am surprised no one has questioned whether they were two images. ;-)


With only 700mm I would never achieve that level of foreshortening ....the plane was too small (37,000 feet!) as it passed the moon.

I sectionally enlarged the plane (+ contrails) and streeetched them relative to the moon.

So the loss of detail in the plane is mainly over enlargement....but a silver body in a blue sky didn’t help with definition.

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Posted by Eric: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 11:01 290th Post
Carrying on my unhealthy obsession with ornithological ablutions, the Blackcap came for complete immersion therapy ....requiring a good deal of dehydration afterwards.  1/250th @f11 2000iso (as the sun went in 😡)




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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 11:01 291st Post
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Posted by GeoffR: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 11:42 292nd Post
We'll not argue Eric but the aircraft is in the colours of Atlas Air Cargo and is thus White and Blue Fuselage and vertical stabiliser with Grey wings and horizontal stabiliser, engine cowlings are Blue. There is a grey section on the lower fuselage, mainly because Boeing do it that way.



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Posted by Eric: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 12:15 294th Post
GeoffR wrote:
We'll not argue Eric but the aircraft is in the colours of Atlas Air Cargo and is thus White and Blue Fuselage and vertical stabiliser with Grey wings and horizontal stabiliser, engine cowlings are Blue. There is a grey section on the lower fuselage, mainly because Boeing do it that way. :bowing:  Yes you are right .....I misremembered the wrong plane.

I was photographing a US Airforce transport plane just before this one...that was the grey beastie.

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Posted by Eric: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 14:50 295th Post
A VERY heavy crop...but couldn’t resist this almost prehistoric look...



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 18:41 297th Post
Eric I love the Blackcap bathing! Another Barn Owl pix from last Friday D500 image with 80-400mm lens.

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Posted by Eric: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 20:55 298th Post
Not sure why my saturated image was duplicated post...perhaps mods would remove one?



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Posted by Eric: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 21:01 299th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Eric I love the Blackcap bathing! Another Barn Owl pix from last Friday D500 image with 80-400mm lens.

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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Jun 4th, 2020 22:50 300th Post
Eric wrote:
Not sure why my saturated image was duplicated post...perhaps mods would remove one? Done - looks like you hit quote & post ...



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Posted by Robert: Fri Jun 5th, 2020 06:34 301st Post
Eric wrote:
I am surprised no one has questioned whether they were two images. ;-)
I spotted it immediately but who am I to interfere with Eric's manipulations, in my view that's what photography is all about, having fun and exercising one's skills creating an image.  Combining images and emphasising one aspect is all part of it.  Nice one Eric.

Another possible explanation for the slight loss of sharpness in the plane is the pixel size enlargement as the software rearranges the pixels as the second overlaid image to the same grid pattern as the background image, think micro mosaic?  Less of an issue with a modern high res DSLR but with the D1's 2.7 Mp it was very evident when I tried similar tricks with almost brick sized pixels.  As well as movement, air distortion around the plane, eddies and fast flowing air-pockets must have an effect on sharpness I would have thought, compressed and expanded air create distortion and air shimmies, especially when it's being compressed and expanded when a bloody great lump of metal is being propelled through it at such high speed, think ship and wake?



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Posted by Eric: Fri Jun 5th, 2020 07:11 302nd Post
Robert wrote:
I spotted it immediately but who am I to interfere with Eric's manipulations, in my view that's what photography is all about, having fun and exercising one's skills creating an image.  Combining images and emphasising one aspect is all part of it.  Nice one Eric.

Another possible explanation for the slight loss of sharpness in the plane is the pixel size enlargement as the software rearranges the pixels as the second overlaid image to the same grid pattern as the background image, think micro mosaic?  Less of an issue with a modern high res DSLR but with the D1's 2.7 Mp it was very evident when I tried similar tricks with almost brick sized pixels.  As well as movement, air distortion around the plane, eddies and fast flowing air-pockets must have an effect on sharpness I would have thought, compressed and expanded air create distortion and air shimmies, especially when it's being compressed and expanded when a bloody great lump of metal is being propelled through it at such high speed, think ship and wake?
In mitigation it wasn’t actually 2 images. It’s just the plane was a lot smaller below the moon. All I did was lasso a section and stretch it bigger upwards, then erase/feather the top edge where the sky overlapped the moon. Crude ...but sufficient for a bit of fun and discussion.



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Posted by Eric: Fri Jun 5th, 2020 07:17 303rd Post
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Done - looks like you hit quote & post ... Thanks Chris...my digits have a life of their own. 😆



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Posted by Eric: Fri Jun 5th, 2020 09:13 304th Post
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I need a bigger bath than this one please.
Same problem with my bird baths Bob....too small for some.




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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Jun 5th, 2020 10:20 305th Post
Bob nice one we have same problems with WPs in bird bath, one did its business this morning then had a drink!!!! I have to clean it out every day. Look what they do to the bird feeder too.

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Posted by Eric: Fri Jun 5th, 2020 14:20 306th Post
Bad weather today so didn’t get any chance to try new camera settings. (Graham)  There was a brief burst of sunlight which saw the family of Song Thrushes emerge en masse. 3 young plus both parents. The young stayed in the borders for most of the time but one popped out when Dad came close with food....but right at the bottom of the garden. ☹️



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Posted by Eric: Fri Jun 5th, 2020 15:30 307th Post
Tap, tap, tap on the patio door. 

Spun chair round, nearly spilling coffee, and there’s a young jackdaw trying to come in.

Of course with 700mm on the camera it wasn’t going to focus at 2feet!

Dashed into office grabbed the D500 which had a 100mm lens on it.

No time to juggle setting as he was off as soon as I pointed camera at him...through dirty (yes Ive got another job tomorrow) window.

Not brilliant but another crazy moment in a crazy springtime.






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Posted by Iain: Sat Jun 6th, 2020 14:55 308th Post
A Goldfinch from today and a Jackdaw portrait from earlier this year.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Jun 6th, 2020 17:31 309th Post
Spot on Ian. Wendy just forwared this laugh to me so hope it is not too rude:

A guy goes into the confessional box after years being away from the Church.He pulls aside the curtain, enters and sits himself down. There's a fully equipped bar with crystal glasses, the best vestry wine, Guinness on tap, cigars and liqueur chocolates nearby, and on the wall a fine photographic display of buxom ladies who appear to have mislaid their garments.

He hears a priest come in:"Father, forgive me for it's been a very long time since I've been to confession and I must admit that the confessional box is much more inviting than it used to be".

The priest replies, "Get out, you idiot, you're on my side".

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Posted by Robert: Sat Jun 6th, 2020 20:23 310th Post
Very good Graham, reminds me of another priest story but that is definitely too rude for this genteel gathering... :lol:



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Posted by Eric: Sun Jun 7th, 2020 09:48 311th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Spot on Ian. Wendy just forwared this laugh to me so hope it is not too rude:

A guy goes into the confessional box after years being away from the Church.He pulls aside the curtain, enters and sits himself down. There's a fully equipped bar with crystal glasses, the best vestry wine, Guinness on tap, cigars and liqueur chocolates nearby, and on the wall a fine photographic display of buxom ladies who appear to have mislaid their garments.

He hears a priest come in:"Father, forgive me for it's been a very long time since I've been to confession and I must admit that the confessional box is much more inviting than it used to be".

The priest replies, "Get out, you idiot, you're on my side".
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Posted by Eric: Sun Jun 7th, 2020 09:51 312th Post
Iain wrote:
A Goldfinch from today and a Jackdaw portrait from earlier this year.

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Posted by Iain: Sun Jun 7th, 2020 10:12 313th Post
Or put your food in a better position so that the light is right when you are sitting in your chair.



Posted by GeoffR: Mon Jun 8th, 2020 10:04 314th Post
One from yesterday

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Posted by Eric: Mon Jun 8th, 2020 10:43 316th Post
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One from yesterday Lovely grey wag...one of my favourite birds. Not sure where you found the sun yesterday. It was wet wet wet here. ☹️ 

I only managed a couple of distant and bedraggled solitary visitors to the garden.



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Posted by GeoffR: Mon Jun 8th, 2020 11:07 317th Post
We didn't actually find any sun, it was just a short period of thinner cloud.
I did get one with her having her lunch but she had her back to me.

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Posted by Iain: Mon Jun 8th, 2020 13:04 318th Post
Good shots Eric and Geoff. I think pics of wet birds are good as it shows what these little things have to go through at this time of year if they have young.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Jun 8th, 2020 15:29 319th Post
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 11:11 320th Post
Just a Dunnock in fron garden this morning they have two nests and are feeding, stood in window for 1/2 hr and best I could get they do not hang around! D850 700mm 1/400 sec f11 ISO 1600 quite dull light.

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Posted by Eric: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 21:18 321st Post
Lovely Dunnock Graham. Can’t seem to get close enough to them ☹️ 

The 3 young Thrush have been following Mum and Dad around the garden all day. One of them is self feeding and came quite close....



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Posted by Eric: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 21:22 322nd Post
Couldn’t resist this shot....

(For the uninitiated a Sprog is a nickname for the Sparrow,  and a Drog is a cross between a dragon and a dog.....according to the bloke who made the statue. 😆)



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Posted by Eric: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 21:25 323rd Post
Not sure if this should be in a another thread....New Pub names.

In the absence of any Hounds ....


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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 22:33 324th Post
Some good pixs there Eric focus looks spot on , I wish we had thrushes here.

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Posted by Eric: Tue Jun 9th, 2020 23:37 325th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Some good pixs there Eric focus looks spot on , I wish we had thrushes here. Thanks.
There were 5 thrushes on the lawn today. Parents and 3 young. We have never seen so many young birds for some years and we’re thinking it was down to the reduced disturbance. But it dawned on us that for the last 10 years we have been holidaying in mainland Europe every May/June...and probably missed it all!

This virus has made us realise that being home in our garden, which excels in Springtime, is far better than visiting foreign parts. We may well switch to just September trips in future...once normality returns.

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Posted by Iain: Wed Jun 10th, 2020 08:17 326th Post
These photos are nice. Your getting a good selection of wildlife in you garden.



Posted by Iain: Fri Jun 12th, 2020 14:03 327th Post
One from today a Willow Warbler, big crop though.

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Posted by Eric: Fri Jun 12th, 2020 19:34 328th Post
Ok Iain....how is your gull recognition?  Haven’t seen Jeff on the forum for a while to ask him as well.

I’ve had lesser black back gulls dropping in to steal the sparrows bread. Take a look at this pair........




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According to the ringing detail the one in the foreground is a lesser black back gull possibly ringed in Holland (although the smaller metal ring states Natural History Museum SW7 🙄).  What I want to know...is the the one behind it a yellow legged gull?  It’s legs are obviously more yellow than the normal ‘faded yellow’ legs of a LBB gull and it’s slightly larger. Of course there’s a lot of variation on both counts but what made me wonder was it came on it’s own and despite mingling with up to a dozen other LBBs it stayed a bit remote in behaviour and didn’t leave when they all did. 

Mike my birder friend saw the photo small on the camera and is inclined to think it may be a YL gull...they are common along Norfolk coast. But it would be a first for my garden. 🥳🥳🥳. What do you think?

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Posted by Eric: Fri Jun 12th, 2020 19:44 329th Post
A couple more of the LBB or YL gull.....



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Jun 12th, 2020 21:33 330th Post
Interesting set of pictures Eric, let us know when Mike has a better look.



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Posted by Eric: Sat Jun 13th, 2020 08:45 331st Post
At the other size extreme a baby blue tit learning the ropes.....



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Posted by Iain: Sun Jun 14th, 2020 14:02 332nd Post
Eric wrote:
Ok Iain....how is your gull recognition?  Haven’t seen Jeff on the forum for a while to ask him as well.

I’ve had lesser black back gulls dropping in to steal the sparrows bread. Take a look at this pair........




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According to the ringing detail the one in the foreground is a lesser black back gull possibly ringed in Holland (although the smaller metal ring states Natural History Museum SW7 🙄).  What I want to know...is the the one behind it a yellow legged gull?  It’s legs are obviously more yellow than the normal ‘faded yellow’ legs of a LBB gull and it’s slightly larger. Of course there’s a lot of variation on both counts but what made me wonder was it came on it’s own and despite mingling with up to a dozen other LBBs it stayed a bit remote in behaviour and didn’t leave when they all did. 

Mike my birder friend saw the photo small on the camera and is inclined to think it may be a YL gull...they are common along Norfolk coast. But it would be a first for my garden. 🥳🥳🥳. What do you think?
I think it’s a lesser black backed gull, you get them with bright yellow legs as well.

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Posted by Eric: Sun Jun 14th, 2020 14:49 333rd Post
Iain wrote:
I think it’s a lesser black backed gull, you get them with bright yellow legs as well.
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Posted by Iain: Mon Jun 15th, 2020 14:12 334th Post
:lol::lol: Keep trying!



Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Jun 15th, 2020 22:52 335th Post
Robin just for a change today. D850 and 500mm PF

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Posted by Iain: Tue Jun 16th, 2020 14:34 336th Post
Nice Graham



Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Jun 17th, 2020 22:16 337th Post
Night Owl in the woods this evening wild Tawney Owl Nikon D850 500mm PF lens three electronic flash heads.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 11:00 338th Post
As above but slight correction to exposure in PS. 1/250 sec f16 ISO 640 

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 11:03 339th Post
The next frame D850 set on max 9 FPS  The Tawny came several more times but this was the best of the night, This was a first for me of night bird action and it is a wild bird!!!
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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 11:06 340th Post
The set-up before dark when Owl came an hour later.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 12:11 342nd Post
I'm waiting for another mouse please!

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 12:41 343rd Post
This was I think an also run? It came in so fast when another mouse was put in place you had to be very quick on the shutter. Camera was set on M  with 9 points focus points but on C, Colour balance    6250 K. 

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Posted by jk: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 13:30 344th Post
Nice set of pictures Graham.

Please report your issue that you had during the shoot to Nikon.
I have not seen this before but I dont use the touch screen feature at all.  I use the command dial for scrolling and occasionally a pinch zoom but I have my centre CMD button set up for checking focus.



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Posted by Eric: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 13:49 345th Post
Well done Graham...you cracked it!

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 16:27 346th Post
What was bad news was that half way through the shoot with my D850 I was reviewing my shots waiting for the Owl to come back (about every 10 mins) I noted my best pix as above and marked it with the image protect key I then started to: on the view back monitor touched and slid with finger  to advance up the time-line to see next pix, At once I was locked out with caption "card not formatted!"  I was unable to look at rest of my images. Turned off display still there took out XQD card and message still there with SD card. 
Turned camera off and on again still not able to see any of my pictures. Much time lost new cards on board fully formatted camera back to normal. 
Back home faulty"?" XQD card into PC all NEF files there copied into folder and opened at once in Nikon Capture NX-D SD card also OK. Images all 100% OK. Card back in Camera same "Card Not Formatted" notice. Formatted both cards and all back to normal. Not funny at the time and Pete a Canon man was very kind but no doubt not impressed. Boy was I glad to be able to share these pictures with you all today. 
Spoke to JK on phone never heard that one so I phoned Nikon NPS and gave my membership card no. Gave very helpfull chap full details. Not heard this but has registered my complain and will advise further but will pass info on.
Perhaps by sliding my finger to see more pixs after protecting my selected photo this now caused both cards to be protected? Nikon man said no. However if I need to protect a pix again I will then return to shooting mode then go back to viewing mode in normal mode, just in case. I will repot more if Nikon come back to mre. PS he agreed that I have kept all firmware up to date for info last update was 30/4/2020 C1.11 CD 2.016



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Posted by Eric: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 18:29 347th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
What was bad news was that half way through the shoot with my D850 I was reviewing my shots waiting for the Owl to come back (about every 10 mins) I noted my best pix as above and marked it with the image protect key I then started to: on the view back monitor touched and slid with finger  to advance up the time-line to see next pix, At once I was locked out with caption "card not formatted!"  I was unable to look at rest of my images. Turned off display still there took out XQD card and message still there with SD card. 
Turned camera off and on again still not able to see any of my pictures. Much time lost new cards on board fully formatted camera back to normal. 
Back home faulty"?" XQD card into PC all NEF files there copied into folder and opened at once in Nikon Capture NX-D SD card also OK. Images all 100% OK. Card back in Camera same "Card Not Formatted" notice. Formatted both cards and all back to normal. Not funny at the time and Pete a Canon man was very kind but no doubt not impressed. Boy was I glad to be able to share these pictures with you all today. 
Spoke to JK on phone never heard that one so I phoned Nikon NPS and gave my membership card no. Gave very helpfull chap full details. Not heard this but has registered my complain and will advise further but will pass info on.
Perhaps by sliding my finger to see more pixs after protecting my selected photo this now caused both cards to be protected? Nikon man said no. However if I need to protect a pix again I will then return to shooting mode then go back to viewing mode in normal mode, just in case. I will repot more if Nikon come back to mre. PS he agreed that I have kept all firmware up to date for info last update was 30/4/2020 C1.11 CD 2.016
Not ‘yet’ experience that with the D850 but I did having something similar with my d750....while on a shoot at a posh house. 😳

On that occasion I removed the camera battery for 30secs a bit like when the computer freezes ...remove power supply and reboot.

It worked on the d750 but of course it may have been a different problem.  Await nikons response 🤞

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Posted by GeoffR: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 20:19 348th Post
Graham, I'm not talking to you! Those are superb, I just wish I could afford a 500 PF, absolutely brilliant.



Posted by GeoffR: Fri Jun 19th, 2020 12:11 349th Post
I am told this is a Wood Duck, not native to the UK apparently. Thank you RSPB

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Jun 19th, 2020 13:50 350th Post
Another angle from the shoot. Sorry Geoff yes it is a good lens and far sharper than my previous Nikon 500mm F4 that cost twice as much  and weighed twice as much nearly. Interesting duck not much wrong with that either.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Jun 19th, 2020 14:33 351st Post
Now at last I have fed the family and I can enjoy my meal in peace. Yes Whistler you can go home now and stop flashing me!

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Posted by GeoffR: Fri Jun 19th, 2020 14:35 352nd Post
Thanks Graham, it is a crop, quite a heavy one I used a Nikon 70-200 f2.8 with a TC17E on a D4



Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Jun 20th, 2020 17:35 353rd Post
Geoff what is the quality like of images with the x1.7 extender and the 200mm lens?  I have the TC14E-3   x1.4 extender, the new one, NO loss of quality with the 500 PF and it turns it into 700mm with loss of one stop. Some 8 years ago I had an early version and it was very poor not worth using. Your 200-80mm AF-S f2.8 is one of Nikon's all time best lenses and if you traded in for a 500 PF you would get a very good price. Sadly for you I have never heard or seen a 500mm PF on 2nd hand market.



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Posted by GeoffR: Sat Jun 20th, 2020 20:01 354th Post
Graham, all the images I have posted were taken with the 70-200 and TC17 and I have no complaints about the quality. The converter is a TC17E-2 so an improved one.

As to longer lenses I am considering the 200-500 f5.6 an absolute bargain of a lens and hopefully suitable for what I want.



Posted by chrisbet: Sat Jun 20th, 2020 20:18 355th Post
What? Like this one?  500 PF



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Jun 20th, 2020 22:52 356th Post
Geoff plenty of good reports for the 200-500mm F5,6 and good price at bit less than £1200. I also like and often use the slightly more expensive 400-80mm see my Kenya pixs on here from last year with that lens and my D500.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Jun 21st, 2020 08:04 357th Post
Yes Chris that's the one, one of the best lenses I have ever had. How the auto foucus worked at night on the Owl I could hardly see to frame the pictures! There was hardly an unsharp pix.



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Posted by GeoffR: Sun Jun 21st, 2020 11:19 358th Post
chrisbet wrote:
What? Like this one?  500 PF Very nice, still three times the price of a 200-500!



Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Jun 21st, 2020 12:12 359th Post
Agree Chris, but it is half the price of my previous Nikon 500mm f4 and nearly 1/2 the weight and size. Quality of images is best ever far better auto focus compared with my old lens and you can carry it round all day. That is what you get for first class results at a very reasonable price.

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Aso even at 79 yrs old I can hand hold it for flying pixs no problem, thats what you pay for QED.

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Posted by Eric: Sun Jun 21st, 2020 12:40 360th Post
The ravages of parenthood......



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Tastie morsels.....




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Quality not best...taken through dirty window. Well it was windy and senior management said the door needed to be shut. :needsahug:

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Jun 21st, 2020 14:33 361st Post
Not bad at all through a window. Sorry had go in PS and pulled out a lot more detail. Are you using 9 point focus now , this is spot on?

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Posted by Eric: Sun Jun 21st, 2020 14:53 362nd Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Agree Chris, but it is half the price of my previous Nikon 500mm f4 and nearly 1/2 the weight and size. Quality of images is best ever far better auto focus compared with my old lens and you can carry it round all day. That is what you get for first class results at a very reasonable price.

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Aso even at 79 yrs old I can hand hold it for flying pixs no problem, thats what you pay for QED.
Lovely portrait, Graham

There is no doubt that the D850 and PF 500mm lens are capable of superb clarity and the lens weight makes it a joy to handle. Not actually sure where my tripod is? 🤔 You are really getting the best out off the equipment. Well done.

The only point I would add, is that one’s technique has to be spot on to capitalise on the massive potential of the combination. I confess when at home I am less precise, perhaps even a bit slapdash (eg shooting through windows and using less than optimum settings),being happy to just record the event/creature. As we have discussed, Affinity Photos raw converter is not getting the most out of the Nikon raws....something I need to address when I have a moment. So HOW you handle the raw image is a significant factor to quality results.

My fieldcraft also has a lot to be desired. A Great Spotted Woodpecker landed in our old apple tree and I started off photographing from the house but every time it went behind a bough I crept closer....finally resorting to stealth mode....



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Jan captured the moment my crawling dragged the trousers off...but I’ve spared the world that horror. 😂 

I am currently waiting to be airlifted to a vertical position.
Once that has been achieved and I have removed the imbedded bread, corn, mealworms, peanuts, squashed fruit, hedgehog droppings and bird poo from my clothes, I will attempt to process and post what I got..

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Posted by Eric: Sun Jun 21st, 2020 15:02 363rd Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Not bad at all through a window. Sorry had go in PS and pulled out a lot more detail. Are you using 9 point focus now , this is spot on?

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Yes ...the 9 point is better than single spot and group modes that I WAS using.
Youve convinced me I need to dump Affinity if I want the best out of the images....just have to get Photoshop onto my laptop. Or maybe a new laptop? 🤔



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Jun 21st, 2020 22:46 365th Post
Super shots Eric.



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Posted by Eric: Mon Jun 22nd, 2020 07:41 366th Post
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Super shots Eric. Thanks. I love the lychen dust being scratched off by his claws as he scrambled up the tree in the 2nd image.

 Ridiculously slow shutter speed given the lighting under the tree shade....the sun only appeared as it flew away! 😡 

I had the iso at 2000 (should have gone higher) and using f11 meant I was hand holding 700mm at 1/200th. A testament to the lightweight nature of this combination. 

His head was moving around like ...err...a woodpecker, so I was lucky to get some stationery shots. I ditched over 100 blurred ones. 😔 

Mike tells me this is an juvenile male, as the red on the head extends completely forward. When they are full adults, bizarrely only the nape retains the red. I would have expected a breeding adult to have the greater decoration? Nature is complicated.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Jun 22nd, 2020 10:11 367th Post
A super set of pictures well taken you were lucky it stayed so long. I have tested the 500 PF  hand held and still sharp at 1/60 sec the VR works very well. But as you say faster speeds needed for noving bird. Sorry for off topic but this shows how good VR is taken in a French chateau in 2004 Nikon D70 18-70mm lens at 18mm with VR hand held 1/2sec f5.6 it is very sharp even on a 16x20 inch print. I also often say we forget just how good these early DSLRs from Nikon were.

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Posted by Iain: Wed Jun 24th, 2020 15:17 368th Post
One from today. The debate is still on, I think its a juvenile Willow Tit but I've asked a friend with about ten times my knowledge on birds to see what he says.


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Posted by Iain: Wed Jun 24th, 2020 16:24 369th Post
I meant to say Willow Warbler which it has been confirmed as.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Jun 24th, 2020 16:39 370th Post
Ian nice shot I agree 90% it is a Willow Warbler, colour looks right,thin pale strip over eye, pale yellow/brown legs, short thin bill here in Summer. See what Eric thinks.



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Posted by Eric: Wed Jun 24th, 2020 18:32 371st Post
Another vote for Willow Warbler. Head is flatter than the Chiffchaff.



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Posted by GeoffR: Thu Jun 25th, 2020 10:22 372nd Post
A recent visitor, taken through glass. The white lines are rain drops.

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Posted by Eric: Sun Jun 28th, 2020 23:23 373rd Post
They say raising a family can take it out of you....



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Jun 29th, 2020 07:22 374th Post
Very nice shots Eric spot on.  Our robins have also produced a 2nd lot two new young in the garden last night.



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Posted by Iain: Tue Jun 30th, 2020 10:37 375th Post
Blue Tit in the rain.


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Posted by Eric: Wed Jul 1st, 2020 23:31 376th Post
A pair of Stock Doves made a surprise visit today. I’ve seen a single one before flying with the the wood pigeons, but he seemed to want to bring his partner for a feed. Very shy birds couldn’t get them too close and lighting was really naff.



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The amusing part was as this bird walked past out plastic fox, it actually jumped sideways before realising it wasn’t real. I was quite pleased my paintwork was so realistic. 😆 


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Posted by Iain: Thu Jul 2nd, 2020 14:22 377th Post
I see the fox is eyeing one up for dinner. Good to see them in your garden.



Posted by Iain: Wed Jul 8th, 2020 07:47 378th Post
Nice Dunnock Graham.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Jul 8th, 2020 09:24 379th Post
This upload went mad again I loaded it last night from my laptop saw it on the website this morning far too dark could not edit it so tried to reloaded correct lighter pix and both came up! We should be able to correct a posting error ourselves?



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Posted by Robert: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 01:02 380th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
This upload went mad again I loaded it last night from my laptop saw it on the website this morning far too dark could not edit it so tried to reloaded correct lighter pix and both came up! We should be able to correct a posting error ourselves? Not sure about that Graham, the upload procedure has become rather convoluted since it uploads to the gallery then references the image in the forum, even preventing the image from being deleted from the forum if it's deleted from the gallery (all for good reasons).  I think for the rare occasions it happens just make a new post and perhaps a PM to Chris, JK or myself asking to delete the particular 'wrong image version' post might be the best solution?

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Posted by Eric: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 06:52 381st Post
While we are questioning images presentation in posts....why do some images have a ‘viewed x times’ under the image and others don’t? Apart from the obvious. 😆  

For example ....Graham’s first dunnock has no views...but merely posting it second time it has 22? Not that it matters [how many views an image has] as there are no comments made ...not sure why we need that link under the image?

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Posted by jk: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 08:07 382nd Post
Easiest way forward is to make a new post as Robert suggests and the PM one of the admins to delete the old post.  

If you want a post deleted then please reference the old post with the post number (top right corner of every post).



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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 09:22 383rd Post
If you want to edit an image then just upload it again to your gallery - no need to do anything else - this will replace the original image wherever it appears on the forum.

If using the blue cross then upload but do not paste it to the post.

If you want to keep the original image as well as the new image then rename the new image and paste as normal.

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Posted by Iain: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 13:02 384th Post
A Blue Tit before a corvid 19 hair cut.


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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 13:05 385th Post
That corvid has shrunk to the size of a tit - maybe too much rain ??

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Posted by Eric: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 14:17 386th Post
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That corvid has shrunk to the size of a tit - maybe too much rain ??

.... or did you mean covid .... :lol:
Random letters is another side effect of this virus.  A good friend of ours persists in talking about all these people that have been furlonged. I said it will soon be over as they are in the final furlong from home....it went over her head. Bless.



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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 14:25 387th Post
Eric wrote:
I said it will soon be over as they are in the final furlong from home....it went over her head. Bless. Lol - as long as it doesn't fall at the last fence .... :lol:



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 14:38 388th Post
Thanks JK sorry to mess you about here is the correctly exposed Dunnock in future I will not upload direct from my laptop as not as good as my Lacie monitor on the PC.

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Posted by jk: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 14:55 389th Post
Looks good to me Graham.
Very good image.  Seems that D850 and 500mm are a great birding combo.



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Posted by Iain: Thu Jul 9th, 2020 17:23 390th Post
chrisbet wrote:
That corvid has shrunk to the size of a tit - maybe too much rain ??

.... or did you mean covid .... :lol:
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Posted by Robert: Mon Jul 13th, 2020 08:57 391st Post
At the other end of the scale...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-53383387

A bearded vulture seen in Derbyshire.  It's not that far from here, question is will I need a wide angle lens? :lol:



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Jul 13th, 2020 11:19 392nd Post
Thanks for that Robert most interesting the Bearded Vulture is also called Lammergeyer, I have never seen one. Very rare in Southern Europe mostly in the mountains of N Spain. South Africa: Cape Town, Drakensberg, Lesotho,  also the Himalayas and China. We did not have them in Rhodesia. It could have come up in rough weather from Spain or maybe escaped from a zoo.



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Posted by Iain: Mon Jul 13th, 2020 15:14 393rd Post
One from today. Cropped a bit.

EE1C6B19-4EF7-4957-9D55-10FF73E15BA7 by Iain Clyne, on Flickr



Posted by Robert: Mon Jul 13th, 2020 16:29 394th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Thanks for that Robert most interesting the Bearded Vulture is also called Lammergeyer, I have never seen one. Very rare in Southern Europe mostly in the mountains of N Spain. South Africa: Cape Town, Drakensberg, Lesotho,  also the Himalayas and China. We did not have them in Rhodesia. It could have come up in rough weather from Spain or maybe escaped from a zoo. That's interesting Graham but you seem to have studiously avoided my dilemma about the wide angle lens... LOL



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Jul 13th, 2020 18:25 395th Post
I doubt if you would get that close its wingspan is nearly 9 feet so it is quite big and has a habit of dropping large bones from high up to crack them! So watch your head! Here are some white-backed vultures from my Kenya trip.

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Posted by jk: Mon Jul 13th, 2020 18:43 396th Post
Robert wrote:
That's interesting Graham but you seem to have studiously avoided my dilemma about the wide angle lens... LOL Well if you are going to use your wide angle lens then dont lie down close by else you will be with the angels!



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Posted by Robert: Mon Jul 13th, 2020 19:46 397th Post
Thanks for the tips!

I think I will stick with stars and other heavenly bodies...

I understand we are currently enjoying a rare visit from Comet Neowise. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-53383007



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Posted by Eric: Tue Jul 14th, 2020 11:02 398th Post
Robert wrote:
Thanks for the tips!

I think I will stick with stars and other heavenly bodies...

I understand we are currently enjoying a rare visit from Comet Neowise. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-53383007
I stopped going to Comet because I thought their spotty- faced technical staff were Neowise too. :lol:



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Jul 14th, 2020 17:19 399th Post
Spotted Thick-Knee Nikon D500 with 80-400mm lens in Kenya. Very similar to the UK Stone Curlew.

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Posted by Robert: Tue Jul 14th, 2020 22:43 400th Post
Eric wrote:
I stopped going to Comet because I thought their spotty- faced technical staff were Neowise too. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Posted by jk: Wed Jul 15th, 2020 07:52 401st Post
Robert wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: That is the trouble when we have a PC World!:lol::lol:



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Jul 19th, 2020 15:25 402nd Post
Young Reg our new young Robin just getting his new redbreast, still bit tally top end. He is very shy still not like his old father Reg who once landed on my shoe when I was digging the garden. Its taken two days to get this fleeting shot of him with Nikon D850 and 700mm lens.

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Jul 22nd, 2020 18:10 403rd Post
Just doing some noise reduction tests with the much improved RAW in Photoshop latest release 21.2.1 The NEF was imported into RAW and noise reduction slider 60% and sharpness 40% in two easy steps a small amount of highlight help and opened as a TIFF this is about a 50% blow up from the original D500 image. Nikon 500mm AF-S f4 Lens 1/3200 sec f4 ISO 3200. 

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Jul 22nd, 2020 18:13 404th Post
This is the original as shot with no noise reduction.

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Posted by Eric: Thu Jul 23rd, 2020 15:40 405th Post
The ancient reptilian creature it’s standing on is an interesting addition. Looks well peeved ....it’s back ‘skin’ has been eroded by a pesky perching bird that keeps smashing fish to death on its back 😆 




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Posted by jk: Thu Jul 23rd, 2020 15:49 406th Post
:lol:   Enter the Dragon!

Nice image Graham.
Super sharp as always.



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Posted by Iain: Sun Jul 26th, 2020 14:31 407th Post
I was sitting at the back of the car drinking a cup of coffee when this handsome little fellow landed not too far away. luckily the camera was at hand.


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Posted by Eric: Sun Jul 26th, 2020 18:16 408th Post
Iain wrote:
I was sitting at the back of the car drinking a cup of coffee when this handsome little fellow landed not too far away. luckily the camera was at hand.


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And the camera was switched on. :lol:
He is in good nick for this time of the breeding season? Would he be an early juvenile or non breeding Male?



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Posted by Iain: Sun Jul 26th, 2020 20:43 409th Post
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And the camera was switched on. :lol:
He is in good nick for this time of the breeding season? Would he be an early juvenile or non breeding Male?
There is a heavy ringing presence in the area I was at so I would say a juv from this year as no rings.



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Posted by Iain: Mon Jul 27th, 2020 14:39 411th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
Well taken Ian, good looking bird. He is Graham. He was there again today even though it was raining.



Posted by Iain: Tue Jul 28th, 2020 17:35 412th Post
One I caught recently.


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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Jul 28th, 2020 19:19 413th Post
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Posted by blackfox: Tue Jul 28th, 2020 20:40 414th Post
did a 40 mile round trip up the coast today to try and find something decent . no such luck holidays are now in full swing to many covid carriers for my liking , came back to town and popped down the estuary (rob knows where) for a quick look and fell upon this lovely posing wheatear ,seemed attracted by the shutter noise 

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Jul 28th, 2020 22:53 415th Post
Ian that is a winner I wish I had taken that!



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Posted by Iain: Mon Aug 10th, 2020 14:28 416th Post
A Dunnock from today to try and get this tread going again.


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Posted by Eric: Mon Aug 10th, 2020 18:02 417th Post
Iain wrote:
A Dunnock from today to try and get this tread going again.


D75_1836 by Iain Clyne, on Flickr
Is that a different camera/lens to normal, Iain? Very nice natural colour and dof smooth.

Edit: just noticed your file name. Is that a d7500?

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Aug 10th, 2020 22:38 418th Post
Well done Ian another good image and your's Jeff.

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Posted by Iain: Tue Aug 11th, 2020 20:40 419th Post
Eric wrote:
Is that a different camera/lens to normal, Iain? Very nice natural colour and dof smooth.

Edit: just noticed your file name. Is that a d7500?
It’s the sigma 150-600 Eric but on my D750



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It’s the sigma 150-600 Eric but on my D750 Ah didn’t know you had a 750. How do you get on with it?  I had one for a while to replace the D3 and enjoyed using it but found the buffer a bit slow to clear. Maybe it was card speed back then?

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Posted by Eric: Wed Aug 12th, 2020 08:41 421st Post
This chap or chapess visited the lawn this morning. 

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Aug 12th, 2020 09:44 422nd Post
Very interesting is this a Grey-headed Woodpecker? Good sharp pix too.



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Posted by Eric: Wed Aug 12th, 2020 10:17 423rd Post
Juvenile Green I am sorry to say 😧



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Posted by Iain: Thu Aug 13th, 2020 07:41 424th Post
Nice shot Eric. They are like gold dust up here.



Posted by Eric: Thu Aug 13th, 2020 09:06 425th Post
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Nice shot Eric. They are like gold dust up here. It’s strange how some species have survived better in different areas. You have posted birds we rarely see down here.

Every year around early September (usually) we get a Yaffle drop in. Within 48 hours we get a great spotted drop in!
It’s got to the point where as soon as we hear the Yaffle call we keep watch for the GS.

We assumed it was a displacement after fledging or the start of a migration movement (although they a-patently don’t move far from their birthplace).

This year it’s been much earlier and the reverse. Last month we had the GS juvenile coming here and hanging about for 2 or 3 days ...now it’s the Yaffles turn. I suspect like everything else it’s been a perfect breeding Spring and they are dispersing earlier.



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Posted by Iain: Thu Aug 13th, 2020 10:20 426th Post
A lot of birds were breading early this year, I think the hot spring my have helped.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Thu Aug 13th, 2020 10:23 427th Post
We only see GS in our garden fairly regular but plenty of Green just up the road in the downs. Not many birds at present as we give up feeding mid July start again in Oct. Wendy thinks the young should learn to find normal food in the summer.



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Posted by Eric: Fri Aug 14th, 2020 22:25 428th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
We only see GS in our garden fairly regular but plenty of Green just up the road in the downs. Not many birds at present as we give up feeding mid July start again in Oct. Wendy thinks the young should learn to find normal food in the summer. I actually don’t think it makes a lot of difference. We have left the feeders filled up and the birds don’t seem to be bothering with them apart from the odd tit, greenfinch, robin and goldfinch. I mean literally one of each! The birds have dispersed naturally. The few remaining sparrows and blackbirds aren’t bothered with bread any more. The lesser black backs have started to migrate and common gulls have returned to take the bread. The 5 squirrels are down to 3 and are leaving the feeders alone.....taking first the hazel nuts and now the walnuts. (They even took a pigeons egg yesterday and left it on the patio unbroken). The hedgehogs are leaving food we put out. So I am pretty convinced THEY know what they should be eating and going having fledged.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sat Aug 15th, 2020 17:14 429th Post
The only bird on our rather wet front lawn this morning D850 with 500 PF Lens

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Posted by Robert: Tue Aug 18th, 2020 20:46 430th Post
Unfortunately no photograph but a report which some may find interesting...

I was at a friends yard last evening about sunset when I noticed, against an approaching bank of thick black cloud, an enormous skien of Geese in several very large V formations flying South, about a couple of miles away, over the Kent estuary.

As they disappeared, another even larger skien followed and another and another, I didn't know so many Geese existed, they just kept coming. I watched for about 15 minutes as they flew by at a distance, their white bodies standing out against the black background of a heavy black raincloud which soon dumped a very heavy rain shower on us and we lost sight of the Geese.

Presumably they have started migrating South, but where from and where might they be going?  It seems early in the year for birds to be migrating and in such large numbers.  Is this a harbinger of bad weather to come...

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Posted by jk: Wed Aug 19th, 2020 08:06 431st Post
What type of geese were they Robert?
Apparently there are between 60-190k Canadian geese in UK.

Dont think they fly in the dark but dont know.  I think they land and feed and rest overnight.



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Posted by GeoffR: Wed Aug 19th, 2020 13:26 432nd Post
Canada geese certainly fly at night, well the do around here. We get migrant Canada geese from the north in the winter, resident Canada geese that remain all year and we get returning migrants from the south in summer so it is reasonable to assume that migration is pretty near constant.



Posted by Iain: Wed Aug 19th, 2020 15:01 433rd Post
Most Geese will fly at night. Like you I think its a bit early for migration but it could have been Canada or Greylag on the move.



Posted by Robert: Wed Aug 19th, 2020 16:55 434th Post
Thanks for the info, it was the vast numbers which struck my attention, we do get migration one way or the other but I have never seen so many and I assume they where many more than those I saw in the few minutes I happened to notice them.

They were too far away for me to ID them, although no doubt an expert would recognise their flight per species.



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Posted by Eric: Wed Aug 19th, 2020 20:19 435th Post
I guess a bit late now but you can often identify which species they are by their calling...

https://www.british-birdsongs.uk/greylag-goose/

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Posted by jk: Wed Aug 19th, 2020 22:01 436th Post
I find these audio clips really useful when bird watching as especially in marshes and reed areas.  You hear the bird call but spotting them is more difficult unless you know what you are looking for.



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Posted by Iain: Sun Aug 23rd, 2020 14:53 437th Post
Not the best photo I've taken as it was hiding in the branches.

D75_1984 by Iain Clyne, on Flickr



Posted by Eric: Mon Aug 24th, 2020 09:31 438th Post
Iain wrote:
Not the best photo I've taken as it was hiding in the branches.

D75_1984 by Iain Clyne, on Flickr
Very nice capture. You got the important parts perfectly. I never get to areas that have whitethroats that are easier to approach. They are always miles away. ☹️



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Aug 24th, 2020 19:02 439th Post
Thats a very nice photograph of a bird I have yet to see.



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Posted by Iain: Mon Aug 24th, 2020 20:44 440th Post
Thanks both. This one came on to some blackberries next to where I was sitting in the car and I managed to get a few shots off through the gaps.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Aug 28th, 2020 18:14 441st Post
A flock of rather a large lady birds, Nikon D3X in S Atrica

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Posted by Eric: Sat Aug 29th, 2020 22:40 442nd Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
A flock of rather a large lady birds, Nikon D3X in S Atrica

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Presumably all watching and waiting for the even larger gentlemen birds to arrive?:-)

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Posted by Iain: Wed Sep 2nd, 2020 11:29 443rd Post
I just love juvenile Robins. This one in the environment that they spend most of there time looking for food.


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Posted by Eric: Wed Sep 2nd, 2020 17:31 444th Post
Iain wrote:
I just love juvenile Robins. This one in the environment that they spend most of there time looking for food.


500_1549 by Iain Clyne, on Flickr
I agree, they are such perky characters.  Sorry ...I couldn’t resist removing his point.:thumbs:



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Posted by Iain: Thu Sep 3rd, 2020 14:29 445th Post
Yes the green horn wasn't a good look. :lol:



Posted by Eric: Thu Sep 3rd, 2020 20:44 446th Post
Iain wrote:
Yes the green horn wasn't a good look. :lol: I’ve added the horned robin to my tick list:lol:

We had a cormorant nearly land in the garden during the recent gales. He was obviously short cutting from the river to the coast and nearly hit some overhead cables in the wind. Not sure which of us was most surprised. That would have been a new tick for the garden....if it had landed.:doh:



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Posted by Robert: Fri Sep 4th, 2020 08:00 447th Post
Can't you have a sighted list as well as a landing list? After all birds do fly more than walk... perhaps?



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Posted by jk: Fri Sep 4th, 2020 11:20 448th Post
Eric wrote:
I’ve added the horned robin to my tick list:lol:

We had a cormorant nearly land in the garden during the recent gales. He was obviously short cutting from the river to the coast and nearly hit some overhead cables in the wind. Not sure which of us was most surprised. That would have been a new tick for the garden....if it had landed.:doh:
I am wondering if you have correctly identified it as a horned .
I think it maybe a unicorn robin. 
It was promised by Boris and friends that we would have cake and unicorns! :lol:



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Posted by blackfox: Sun Sep 13th, 2020 08:12 449th Post
a few from yesterday testing out my new olympus 100-400mm lens fitted with a 1.4tc  560mm x 2 = 1120mm in FF terms HANDHELD  shots 

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Posted by jk: Sun Sep 13th, 2020 09:20 450th Post
Very fine shots Geoff.
All very sharp.

The last shot is very impressive as that requires the fastest AF performance by the camera and lens combo.



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Posted by Iain: Sun Sep 13th, 2020 14:44 451st Post
A nice set of Kes shots.



Posted by blackfox: Sun Sep 13th, 2020 18:13 452nd Post
jk wrote:
Very fine shots Geoff.
All very sharp.

The last shot is very impressive as that requires the fastest AF performance by the camera and lens combo.
the amazing part is the lens retails for just £1099 ,they literally cant make them fast enough at the moment



Posted by blackfox: Sun Sep 13th, 2020 18:16 453rd Post
just to prove it wasn't a fluke shot

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heres another  these are with a 1.4 t.c on as well so FF equiv of 1120mm hand held



Posted by Bob Bowen: Mon Sep 14th, 2020 16:04 454th Post
Super images. You have a real talent for wildlife work keep them coming please. I can only dream nowadays.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Mon Sep 14th, 2020 18:00 455th Post
Super shots Jeff



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Posted by Eric: Mon Sep 14th, 2020 21:17 456th Post
Yes Jeff makes it look easy...when it aint! ☹️ 

Waiting for Red Kite to fly closer today. 

This one was across the field and wouldn’t move..



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A peregrine shot past (about 500m UP) as I was waiting for the Kite to take off.....



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When it eventually flew, it still was too far away (heavy crop)...




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Maybe tomorrow they will come closer. 🤞🤞🤞



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Posted by Iain: Wed Sep 16th, 2020 10:19 457th Post
There is always another day.



Posted by blackfox: Wed Sep 16th, 2020 15:13 458th Post
couple of distant spoonbills in flight  with the new 100-400 mm lens ,love the sheer amount of detail this lens acquires . the hills in the distance are north Wales across the Dee Estuary and up where I live 

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Posted by Eric: Wed Sep 16th, 2020 20:10 459th Post
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There is always another day. Today the wind helped slow them down. :lol: 



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They are frustrating to photograph.  When they do land they choose fence posts at a distance. There are loads of posts ...why this one way across the other side of the field?




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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Sep 16th, 2020 22:36 460th Post
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Posted by Iain: Thu Sep 17th, 2020 14:36 461st Post
In most cases Eric, the ones around me tend to have a post or branch that they like to go too. If it’s not the same one than it’s one somewhere close.



Posted by Eric: Thu Sep 17th, 2020 20:01 462nd Post
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In most cases Eric, the ones around me tend to have a post or branch that they like to go too. If it’s not the same one than it’s one somewhere close. Unfortunately there were so many here that I couldn’t identify which one was going to land where. We had 10 flying around the same tree in front of us. If you still have a caravan, Iain, you ought to put this campsite on your list .. https://www.rockinghamcl.co.uk

The problem I had was the wind direction this week. It was from the north. It meant the birds were flying from the south into the wind to hover over food, making them back lit. I need to come back again when wind is more from sw, so there’s less exp comp required.



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Posted by Iain: Sat Sep 19th, 2020 20:49 463rd Post
Unfortunately we don’t have a caravan any more, too much work was needed as the damp had got in and we didn’t bother to replace it.
It’s now B&Bs or cottage rental.



Posted by Eric: Sat Sep 19th, 2020 21:10 464th Post
Iain wrote:
Unfortunately we don’t have a caravan any more, too much work was needed as the damp had got in and we didn’t bother to replace it.
It’s now B&Bs or cottage rental.
That’s a shame. Ideal for away trips with optimum isolation, in these troubled times. We’ve said we won’t replace ours if it ‘fails’.



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Posted by blackfox: Mon Sep 21st, 2020 08:47 465th Post
redshank heading for the last bit of dry land as the tide rises . olympus 100-400 + 1.4 tc 560mm   hand held 

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Posted by Iain: Mon Sep 21st, 2020 13:57 466th Post
Eric wrote:
That’s a shame. Ideal for away trips with optimum isolation, in these troubled times. We’ve said we won’t replace ours if it ‘fails’. Your right, I do miss it for that.



Posted by Iain: Mon Sep 21st, 2020 13:58 467th Post
That looks good Jeff.



Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Sep 22nd, 2020 19:35 468th Post
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Posted by Eric: Mon Sep 28th, 2020 23:11 469th Post
While photographing Kites there was an interloper watching in the tree.....

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Posted by Eric: Mon Sep 28th, 2020 23:13 470th Post
This is more (sliced) Chicken Hawk than Red Kite. 

Took the filling right out of my sandwich!!!



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Posted by Eric: Tue Sep 29th, 2020 09:24 471st Post
Peacocks are noisy things. Strutting about ‘Crying’.

Had to whack this one on the back of the neck to get it to shut up and stand still.




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Posted by Eric: Tue Sep 29th, 2020 09:38 472nd Post
Don’t you point that thing at me!




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Posted by Eric: Tue Sep 29th, 2020 16:55 473rd Post
One more...



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Tue Sep 29th, 2020 19:43 474th Post
Looking good Eric.



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Posted by Iain: Tue Sep 29th, 2020 20:38 475th Post
They look good Eric.



Posted by Eric: Tue Sep 29th, 2020 22:22 476th Post
Thanks. I learnt a lot those few days. Not the least was getting sun and wind direction correct. Unfortunately the wind wasn’t right and the birds were hovering in backlight.  I think I will go back next May when they are perhaps more interested in bait  (feeding young) ....if the wind is coming from the more normal South west.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Sep 30th, 2020 22:37 477th Post
Redshanks Titchfield Haven D500

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Posted by Eric: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 07:42 478th Post
Just found a couple more kites....



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Posted by Iain: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 13:53 479th Post
A Kite from the other day. Its the same Kite in both pics.


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Posted by Eric: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 20:04 480th Post
Nice captures Iain.



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Posted by Iain: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 20:22 481st Post
Thanks Eric.



Posted by Eric: Fri Oct 9th, 2020 21:08 482nd Post
Iain wrote:
Thanks Eric. Were going to have to find another species to photograph :lol:



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Posted by Iain: Sat Oct 10th, 2020 11:15 483rd Post
The gold crests are starting to build up on my patch.



Posted by blackfox: Mon Oct 12th, 2020 09:08 484th Post
flock of oystercatchers in flight  yesterday olympus omd1-mkii + olympus 100-400 hand held 

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Posted by blackfox: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 20:18 485th Post
kingfisher ,massive crop to love the new olympus 100-400 lens 

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Posted by Robert: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 20:57 486th Post
You pulled it in nicely Jeff.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed Oct 14th, 2020 22:43 487th Post
Super shot and pin-sharp well done!



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Posted by Eric: Fri Oct 16th, 2020 21:33 488th Post
He’s back! 

But now in full adult plumage.....



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Classic Woodpecker ‘jump’...




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Posted by Eric: Fri Oct 16th, 2020 21:42 489th Post
It’s suffering from Coloboma in its right eye (gap in the eye tissues)



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Posted by jk: Fri Oct 16th, 2020 22:32 490th Post
Great shots Eric. 
Are you using D500 or D850 with 500mm f4?



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Oct 16th, 2020 22:48 491st Post
Very nice shots Eric well done. No birds in our garden but Wendy starting feeding again this weekend.



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Posted by Eric: Sat Oct 17th, 2020 09:09 492nd Post
jk wrote:
Great shots Eric. 
Are you using D500 or D850 with 500mm f4?
D850 exclusively these days.

I understand your point that the D500 is better for BIF with its extended width focus points. But I’ve found that if I need to use the frame edge focusing points the bird is too small in the frame anyway.



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Posted by Iain: Sat Oct 17th, 2020 16:59 493rd Post
I like those Green Woodpecker shots Eric, they are few and far between up here.



Posted by Eric: Sat Oct 17th, 2020 19:29 494th Post
Iain wrote:
I like those Green Woodpecker shots Eric, they are few and far between up here. Thx Iain. They have made spasmodic visits to our garden over the years. Never been able to photograph them. This year there seems to have been young ones that fledged here and they (I am assuming it’s them) have visited 2 or 3 times this Summer. With the caravan in the back garden I was able to get a closer concealed position. This time I was in the house. I stalked it a bit but made one wrong move ...and it was gone. 😞



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Posted by Iain: Wed Oct 21st, 2020 09:47 495th Post
The stalking but get a bit harder with age.:lol::lol:



Posted by Eric: Wed Oct 21st, 2020 17:02 496th Post
Iain wrote:
The stalking but get a bit harder with age.:lol::lol: The creeking bones and moaning tends to alert the birds when I am ....getting out of the car. 
:lol:



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Posted by jk: Wed Oct 21st, 2020 20:48 497th Post
I always wondered why the local jackdaws left when I got out the car!
It must be my rattling bones.
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Posted by Iain: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 20:14 498th Post
I can get out the car and get down on the ground, it’s the getting back up that’s the problem.😂🤣



Posted by Eric: Thu Oct 22nd, 2020 23:07 499th Post
Iain wrote:
I can get out the car and get down on the ground, it’s the getting back up that’s the problem.😂🤣 I normally check the tyres while I am down there. :lol:



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Posted by GeoffR: Fri Oct 23rd, 2020 14:48 500th Post
So far I have found mine to be roundish and black

Last edited on Fri Oct 23rd, 2020 14:49 by GeoffR


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