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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 8th, 2019 16:40 51st Post
chrisbet wrote:
More good tips, thank you.
I generally use short bursts of continuous rather than single shots - horses move quickly!
Yes, I tend to pan with the horse before and after the bursts.
This one was taken at f4.5 1/640, 100 fl, ISO1600, spot metering and looks much better but in the shade rather than strong light.






Well you seem to be doing the right things and yes that’s a lot better. A nice portraiture image as opposed to action shot.  But for me...not enough depth of field. f8 or even f11 would have got horse head and rider all sharp....assuming you wanted that. As it is, the point of max sharpness is the horses chest.

Edit: looking at it again it may just be the whole image needs sharpening.
There is a softness that MAY be the lens under performing at its max aperture. Stopping down to 8/11 for some shots should prove or disprove if the lens is letting you down a tad..



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Posted by chrisbet: Fri Feb 8th, 2019 16:55 52nd Post
Lol - I was trying to put the background out of focus to make the horse & rider stand out - so I am happy that the in focus part is the horse's chest - exactly what I was aiming for :-)

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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 8th, 2019 16:56 53rd Post
chrisbet wrote:
Lol - I was trying to put the background out of focus to make the horse & rider stand out - so I am happy that the in focus part is the horse's chest - exactly what I was aiming for :-)
I will get my hat. :lol:



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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 8th, 2019 17:17 54th Post
Whilst I understand your (correct) use of max aperture for dof effect I would still be concerned about the sharpness of the key areas.

This could be the lens as many need stopping down a stop or two to max sharpness....whilst recognising that’s contrary to your dof needs it may prove a point about the lens max sharpness potential in a test.

It would be my first check if I were trying to get the images sharper.

I don’t know how much post capture software sharpening you HAVE applied. Maybe not enough. Most images (especially raw files) benefit from 20% extra kick up the rear. You Gimp treatment shows that.

I don’t think you are doing anything wrong in the execution ...it may just be the equipment is on its limit or you are not doing enough post processing.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Feb 8th, 2019 18:03 55th Post
Welcome to our forum Chrisbet, sound like you have had some good help so far. I like your pictures keep up the good work. I agree with Eric more DOF would have helped to get rider sharp as well on your last posted image. Also you cut off horses feet so would improve a lot with tighter crop showing rider and horses heads only or pull back a bit to show all!



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Posted by chrisbet: Fri Feb 8th, 2019 18:21 56th Post
Graham Whistler wrote: Welcome to our forum Chrisbet, sound like you have had some good help so far. I like your pictures keep up the good work. I agree with Eric more DOF would have helped to get rider sharp as well on your last posted image. Also you cut off horses feet so would improve a lot with tighter crop showing rider and horses heads only or pull back a bit to show all! Thanks - yes, a few things to think about, especially stopping down a little - or maybe swapping to my prime lens for shots like the last one - often though it is not possible to get close enough to frame the image and swapping lenses quickly enough is impossible.
It's a learning curve and your hints and suggestions are most welcome.

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Posted by chrisbet: Fri Feb 8th, 2019 18:23 57th Post
Eric wrote: I don’t know how much post capture software sharpening you HAVE applied. Maybe not enough. Most images (especially raw files) benefit from 20% extra kick up the rear. You Gimp treatment shows that.
50% :-) - more than that and the power lines in the background started pixelating....



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Posted by Iain: Tue Feb 12th, 2019 13:10 58th Post
A mammal form today,

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Posted by jk: Tue Feb 12th, 2019 16:12 59th Post
Three eyed deer.



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Posted by chrisbet: Tue Feb 12th, 2019 16:28 60th Post
Dear, deer..... four ears and one horn :lol:



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Posted by Eric: Tue Feb 12th, 2019 17:33 61st Post
Is that one playing Hide and Sika?


:lol:

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Posted by Iain: Fri Feb 15th, 2019 11:21 62nd Post
Eric wrote:
Is that one playing Hide and Sika?


:lol:

Your jokes don't get any better. :lol::lol:

 


Posted by jk: Fri Feb 15th, 2019 16:31 63rd Post
That is the problem when we retire, life becomes a huge joke but it certainly does help when we have joke Governments!



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Posted by blackfox: Sat Feb 23rd, 2019 09:17 64th Post
a couple of goat shots from yesterday on a day out with Robert and his son  chris 


things you dont notice .? by jeff and jan  cohen, on Flickr




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Posted by jk: Sat Feb 23rd, 2019 10:24 65th Post
Capture the moment  :lol:
Nice ones Jeff.



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Posted by chrisbet: Sun Mar 3rd, 2019 08:35 66th Post
Just looking through some of my 1000s of images and thought I would share a couple :



That is Ivoire - one of the horses I ride in Italy - and to prove it:


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Posted by Eric: Sun Mar 3rd, 2019 09:50 67th Post
chrisbet wrote:
Just looking through some of my 1000s of images and thought I would share a couple :



That is Ivoire - one of the horses I ride in Italy - and to prove it:


Magnificent creature....I’m talking about the horse. :lol:

Is there a touch of Freisan with all that hair....again....talking about Ivoire. :lol:.

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Posted by chrisbet: Sun Mar 3rd, 2019 15:10 68th Post
No - he is a Merens horse, they come from the Pyrenees so as tough as they come. He is generally pretty lazy and will get away with anything you let him, but he & I have a good understanding of each other and he works well for me :smilesmall:

Merens horses



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Posted by Eric: Sun Mar 3rd, 2019 15:27 69th Post
chrisbet wrote:
No - he is a Merens horse, they come from the Pyrenees so as tough as they come. He is generally pretty lazy and will get away with anything you let him, but he & I have a good understanding of each other and he works well for me :smilesmall:

Merens horses
Ah...never heard of the breed before. Very impressive. 

It it was the long mane and tail that made me wonder about the Freisian....

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Posted by chrisbet: Sun Mar 3rd, 2019 20:24 70th Post
Friesians are taller and very showy - not a breed for the amateur, rider or owner, they are highly strung and look at their best with their plumes pulling a glass sided hearse!


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Posted by jk: Sun Mar 3rd, 2019 21:03 71st Post
Dont think I want to accompany them!
Stay away from the grim reaper.



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Posted by blackfox: Wed Apr 3rd, 2019 09:51 72nd Post
a bank vole from yesterday 
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Posted by Robert: Wed Apr 3rd, 2019 13:08 73rd Post
Lovely Jeff.



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Posted by blackfox: Thu Apr 4th, 2019 20:02 74th Post
At that little nature reserve rob, I had it all to myself for about 3 hours

 


Posted by Robert: Thu Apr 4th, 2019 21:16 75th Post
It's a little haven there.  A friend of mine in the village, keen fisherman, he has offered to take me to a little tarn he fishes, he reckons the Foulshaw Ospreys hunt there in season, he had seen them lifting fish from the water.  It's not far from here, I would say it's a similar size to yours, more open and on a hillside with a small stream running in and out of the tarn.



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Posted by Robert: Sat Apr 6th, 2019 20:06 76th Post
Some horsey pictures. 










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Posted by Robert: Fri May 17th, 2019 08:12 77th Post
I somehow lost this post last night...

Re-creating it from new this morning.

Last week I visited Ben Moor botanic garden, hoping my quest for a nice red squirrel photo might succeed.  There is a hide and food placed, ropes for the squirrels to run along and perches for them to pose on.  Unfortunately the top hinged windows opened outwards and only opened about half way, providing un-interrupted of the ground but not the areas frequented by the squirrels.  The windows were filthy, I tried opening the windows fully and propped open with a stick, but this freaked the little creatures, who shot up the trees not to be seen again.  I closed the windows and retired, disappointed.

Spent the day photographing flowers and the gardens, reflections in pools etc.  As I wearily mad my way to the exit before I got locked in for the night, I spotted a little red head in the grass...

Of course I had my micro Nikkor 105mm f/4.0 mounted on the D800 and there was no way I was going to be able to hand hold at the distance with the 70-300 because the light was poor and under tree canopy.  Fortunately it was a patient little squirrel it waited until I mounted the 70-300 and put the camera on the tripod, using two legs for flexibility.  I managed several exposures but the first was best.

This is a very heavy crop, almost 100%.

Mmmm,  forum image wrecking software at work again, so de-saturated that almost looks like a grey squirrel!  Will try posting the image via. Flicker.

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Posted by chrisbet: Fri May 17th, 2019 10:19 78th Post
The attachment option at the foot of the reply page is really only intended for text files and will degrade images as it compresses the files - use one of the three image insert options in the toolbar to retain image quality.



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Posted by Robert: Fri May 17th, 2019 10:46 79th Post
I did last night use the blue plus button, this morning I must have used the 'attachment' button.  My brain is somewhat addled (more than usually) by an infection.



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Posted by blackfox: Fri May 17th, 2019 11:44 80th Post
yep blue button works best rob ,good horsey shots though

 


Posted by amazing50: Mon May 20th, 2019 16:59 81st Post
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Mr (or Mrs) Mole?

Like you say, a rare sighting.

There is a Badger set within a mile of here, I have access to the land but I have never yet seen a Badger. I can see where they have been trails in the wood but the actual Badgers seem to be invisible. Is there a 'better' time to visit the vicinity of the set? Like late at night, or early in the morning? I have seen deer browsing nearby but only briefly.

A Trail Camera could watch for you 24-7 and give the times the badger was active.



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Posted by Robert: Mon May 20th, 2019 19:42 82nd Post
Thanks Mike, that's a good idea! :thumbs:



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Posted by amazing50: Wed May 22nd, 2019 23:01 83rd Post
If you try it, let us know how it turns out.



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Posted by blackfox: Wed Jun 5th, 2019 12:56 84th Post
3 from Sunday afternoon 





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Posted by chrisbet: Tue Jun 11th, 2019 14:58 85th Post
One from deepest Tuscany 😁


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Posted by Iain: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 15:01 86th Post
I'm watching you!!

DSC_8492 by Iain Clyne, on Flickr

 


Posted by Eric: Tue Apr 28th, 2020 12:54 87th Post
Close encounters takes on a new meaning as a slug creeeeeeps past a distracted hedgehog. (Well it does in the movie)

Which goes to show fresh isn’t always the preferred choice even in nature. 😆 



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Posted by Robert: Tue Apr 28th, 2020 13:13 88th Post
Eric wrote:
Close encounters takes on a new meaning as a slug creeeeeeps past a distracted hedgehog. (Well it does in the movie).
Let's see the movie, please!  What are all the little wormy things?  Do hedgehogs like slugs?  If so we need a hedgehog.



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Posted by Eric: Tue Apr 28th, 2020 15:30 89th Post
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Let's see the movie, please!  What are all the little wormy things?  Do hedgehogs like slugs?  If so we need a hedgehog. Don’t know how to post video on here....get error message using blue cross. Maybe file size?


They are dried mealworms and hedgehogs LOVE them. In fact we are not supposed to give them too many as they get too obese.  But since I wanted their prolonged attention and we have 5 that come ....I started with a big handful.

I thought slugs were one of the staple diets of hedgehogs?  I’ve seen one fall asleep with a frog (half eaten) in its mouth. They eat anything really. We had a laugh watching a hedge hog trying to tackle a fat ball on the lawn. It was like a dung beetle rolling it around. Didn’t get that on film though. ☹️ 


She had a quick look at the slug but suspect it was checking the slug wasn’t nicking her mealworms...



Of course these are frame grabs from video taken at night (patio lights only) so a bit grainy and soft.  

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Posted by chrisbet: Tue Apr 28th, 2020 15:53 90th Post
Eric wrote:
Don’t know how to post video on here....get error message using blue cross. Maybe file size?
Videos not allowed for direct upload - orders of the management! :lol:

Upload the video to Youtube or Vimeo etc and post the link using the link button -   .



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Posted by Robert: Tue Apr 28th, 2020 16:04 92nd Post
Eric wrote:
They are dried mealworms and hedgehogs LOVE them. In fact we are not supposed to give them too many as they get too obese.  But since I wanted their prolonged attention and we have 5 that come ....I started with a big handful.

I thought slugs were one of the staple diets of hedgehogs?  I’ve seen one fall asleep with a frog (half eaten) in its mouth. They eat anything really. We had a laugh watching a hedge hog trying to tackle a fat ball on the lawn. It was like a dung beetle rolling it around. Didn’t get that on film though. ☹️ 


She had a quick look at the slug but suspect it was checking the slug wasn’t nicking her mealworms...


Of course these are frame grabs from video taken at night (patio lights only) so a bit grainy and soft.

Very interesting, we don't seem to get many hedgehogs around here, shame, we get loads of slugs.

I thought the images were very good, esp. given the light.



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Posted by Eric: Wed Apr 29th, 2020 15:40 93rd Post
Robert wrote:
Very interesting, we don't seem to get many hedgehogs around here, shame, we get loads of slugs.

I thought the images were very good, esp. given the light.
Very difficult to choose freeze frame without blur given the rapid movement.



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Posted by Eric: Mon May 4th, 2020 17:18 94th Post
Easier to freeze a squirrel....



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Posted by Iain: Tue May 5th, 2020 11:47 95th Post
It’s always harder than you think to freeze wildlife, you need a faster shutter speed than you think.

 


Posted by Graham Whistler: Wed May 6th, 2020 17:53 96th Post
This tiny baby was eating on our bird table this afternoon I had time to get D850 and 500mm (no x1.4) and it is so tame this is almost full frame if I had moved any closer the lens would not focus: 1/2000sec f14 ISO 1600. I liked your one Eric. This one's mother came a bit later and was very nasty chased it away so she could eat, missed this as I was indoors with my cup of tea.

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Posted by Iain: Fri May 8th, 2020 13:12 97th Post
One of a very pregnant Roe Deer on my walk yesterday.

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Posted by Eric: Fri May 8th, 2020 20:51 98th Post
Iain wrote:
One of a very pregnant Roe Deer on my walk yesterday.

N72_7329 by Iain Clyne, on Flickr
Great capture Iain. We have a muntjac that spends the day in the bushes in our front garden. The little b*gger occasionally gets into the back garden ....where it gets chased out PDQ...due to it munching my wife’s price shrubs. 8-) 

The neighbour rang me yesterday to ask if I had heard the ‘squealing‘. Apparently a muntjac (maybe ours) got stuck in the school railings opposite. The head went through (at pace) but the bum didn’t!  They had to bend the railings to free it.  It made me wonder if it was also a pregnant mum.....not realising its new midriff width?



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Posted by jk: Fri May 8th, 2020 22:41 99th Post
Good capture Iain.
I get roe deer in the woods behind my house but they dont come into my garden as it is a 6 ft wall in between my garden woods and the other woods and fields.   Havent managed to actually photograph them but I see them quite often.



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Posted by Iain: Sat May 9th, 2020 13:34 100th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
This tiny baby was eating on our bird table this afternoon I had time to get D850 and 500mm (no x1.4) and it is so tame this is almost full frame if I had moved any closer the lens would not focus: 1/2000sec f14 ISO 1600. I liked your one Eric. This one's mother came a bit later and was very nasty chased it away so she could eat, missed this as I was indoors with my cup of tea.

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